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> "Multiple EU countries have free speech written in their constituion." That's an exceedingly low bar! We need more critical thinking than that to start a sub
by perihelions 1y ago
> "Multiple EU countries have free speech written in their constituion."
That's an exceedingly low bar! We need more critical thinking than that to start a substantive discussion about comparative freedoms across political systems. A government can't just declare itself to be a free country; it's practical reality which matters.
Exhibits A, B, & C:
> "Citizens of the People's Republic of China shall enjoy freedom of speech, the press, assembly, association, procession and demonstration"
https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/laws_regulations/2014/08/23/content_281474982987458.htm https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/laws_regulations/2014/08/... ("Constitution of the People’s Republic of China")
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_People%27...
> "In conformity with the interests of the toilers, and in order to strengthen the socialist system, the citizens of the U.S.S.R. are guaranteed by law:—(a) Freedom of speech; (b) Freedom of the Press; (c) Freedom of assembly and of holding mass meetings; (d) Freedom of street processions and demonstrations..."
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:The_Soviet_Socialist_Constitution_of_december_5,_1936.djvu/30 https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:The_Soviet_Socialist_Con... ("Constitution of the Soviet Union (1936)")
> "Citizens are guaranteed freedom of speech, the press, assembly, demonstration and association. The State shall guarantee the conditions for the free activities of democratic political parties and social organizations."
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Socialist_Constitution_of_the_Democratic_People%27s_Republic_of_Korea_(2023)#CHAPTER_V._FUNDAMENTAL_RIGHTS_AND_DUTIES_OF_CITIZENS https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Socialist_Constitution_of_the... ("Socialist Constitution of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (2023)")
- f_devd 1y agoYou have to assume the country in question follows has a Rule of Law. You're argument also works against the US as of recently, less so against Germany.
- oeitho 1y agoThe flagged comment I responded to claimed that no EU country had free speech in their constitution. My comment was in response to that.