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our sync is opt-in + optional, e2e encrypted, and self-hostable. if that's not enough, you can disable all network features via a feature flag at compile time

by ellieh 1y ago

our sync is opt-in + optional, e2e encrypted, and self-hostable. if that's not enough, you can disable all network features via a feature flag at compile time if you don't care for sync, there are a bunch of other projects doing this (and supporting several shells), eg: - mcfly: https://github.com/cantino/mcfly https://github.com/cantino/mcfly - resh: https://github.com/curusarn/resh https://github.com/curusarn/resh

nidnogg 1y ago
this is my only quip with atuin, despite my endorsement in a sibling comment. this should absolutely be opted-out BY DEFAULT. not defaulted to opt-in. if you have someone outright cloning your entire project just to skip this opted-in privacy gap feature, it's a good indicator it's an issue to be mindful of!
- phaer 1y ago
  I think you might be mixing them up? Opt-in means that the user needs to actively decide to use the feature, it's OFF by default. That's currently the case for atuin (happy user without sync here). Opt-out would mean the feature would be ON by default and users would need to actively decide NOT to use it.
- ellieh 1y ago
  You actually have to go and register an account or log in for sync to happen at all Otherwise it’s offline, by default, right after install
- fluidcruft 1y ago
  Isn't it off by default? That's what opt-in means as far as I know.
electromech 1y ago
I am happy Atuin user now, but I was initially worried that it would sync my data unless I explicitly disabled that feature. The fact that it's opt-in becomes clear once you read the docs and understand how it works, but it might be worth emphasizing that on the landing page. Currently it says: Shell history sync Sync your shell history to all of your machines, wherever they are In any case, thanks for building a great tool!
yjftsjthsd-h 1y ago
> if that's not enough, you can disable all network features via a feature flag at compile time Are there network features other than sync?

by ellieh 1y ago

nidnogg 1y ago

this is my only quip with atuin, despite my endorsement in a sibling comment. this should absolutely be opted-out BY DEFAULT. not defaulted to opt-in. if you have someone outright cloning your entire project just to skip this opted-in privacy gap feature, it's a good indicator it's an issue to be mindful of!

phaer 1y ago
I think you might be mixing them up? Opt-in means that the user needs to actively decide to use the feature, it's OFF by default. That's currently the case for atuin (happy user without sync here). Opt-out would mean the feature would be ON by default and users would need to actively decide NOT to use it.
ellieh 1y ago
You actually have to go and register an account or log in for sync to happen at all Otherwise it’s offline, by default, right after install
fluidcruft 1y ago
Isn't it off by default? That's what opt-in means as far as I know.

electromech 1y ago

I am happy Atuin user now, but I was initially worried that it would sync my data unless I explicitly disabled that feature. The fact that it's opt-in becomes clear once you read the docs and understand how it works, but it might be worth emphasizing that on the landing page. Currently it says: Shell history sync Sync your shell history to all of your machines, wherever they are In any case, thanks for building a great tool!

yjftsjthsd-h 1y ago

> if that's not enough, you can disable all network features via a feature flag at compile time Are there network features other than sync?