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How about first fixing, that Windows update is automatically installing inappropriate drivers for my graphics card, causing system instability and freezes? How

How about first fixing, that Windows update is automatically installing inappropriate drivers for my graphics card, causing system instability and freezes? How about first fixing your shit, MS?

greggsy 1y ago
GPU drivers are some of the most complex and frequently updated pieces of code in the industry. I blame the manufacturers for failing to deliver stable products, rather than putting all the blame on windows for delivering drivers to you that were submitted to them by the manufacturer through WHQL arrangements.
- cubefox 1y ago
  GPU drivers also routinely fix buggy or inefficient shader code in individual computer games, at least for popular ones. GPU drivers are doing more than what would reasonably expected of them.
  - mananaysiempre 1y ago
    And that’s when what is reasonably expected of them is an optimizing compiler for multiple languages, an execution environment providing isolation among instances of arbitrary mutually untrusting code (generated by that compiler), a resource scheduler, etc.
- zelphirkalt 1y ago
  I think this is somewhat misunderstanding my complaint. When I download the AMD drivers directly from AMD websites, they are fine mostly. It is just that Windows every now and then decides to replace them with the shit that comes with Windows update. I never tell it to do that and it acts in such an idiotic way.
londons_explore 1y ago
MS could easily say "If users with your driver installed have more than a 10% higher reboot/app crash/windows reinstall/BSOD rate than typical users, then your company will be fined $1 per computer affected per month till the issue is resolved.". Suddenly every company would be putting loads more effort into battle testing their drivers when there is a financial cost to buggy code.
- shakna 1y ago
  I think instead every company would suddenly be releasing their own Linux or BSD, and/or lobbying the government to break Microsoft up for being a monopoly. It'd be cheaper.
  - bloomingeek 1y ago
    Here, here! It's time for an operating system revolution, nothing too radical, just enough to secure up company info. I realize this would be really difficult, but don't businesses see that MS wants even more control over their computers? How can any company trust their secret communications about an innovation that could be a boon for profits and expansion ever trust MS not to be spying on them? (Surely MS doesn't collaborate with the feds, which could possibly use this info to sabotage a company they don't like?!?)
    - shakna 1y ago
      Trusting MS means being able to strip down your own security teams. Right now, MS invading everything saves money on experts. (Yes, short term vision. But that's normal.) Business is usually willing to give up control if it directly increases profits.
thrownaway561 1y ago
You can turn that off and not have drivers installed through Windows Update. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/disable-driver-updates/63957b76-b55c-4c59-93f0-72835e9b2fff https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/disabl...
- zelphirkalt 1y ago
  What an intuitive way to wrench back control over installed drivers. Thank you, anyway.
  - unaindz 1y ago
    And often it doesn't even work.

How about first fixing, that Windows update is automatically installing inappropriate drivers for my graphics card, causing system instability and freezes? How about first fixing your shit, MS?

greggsy 1y ago

GPU drivers are some of the most complex and frequently updated pieces of code in the industry. I blame the manufacturers for failing to deliver stable products, rather than putting all the blame on windows for delivering drivers to you that were submitted to them by the manufacturer through WHQL arrangements.

cubefox 1y ago
GPU drivers also routinely fix buggy or inefficient shader code in individual computer games, at least for popular ones. GPU drivers are doing more than what would reasonably expected of them.
- mananaysiempre 1y ago
  And that’s when what is reasonably expected of them is an optimizing compiler for multiple languages, an execution environment providing isolation among instances of arbitrary mutually untrusting code (generated by that compiler), a resource scheduler, etc.
zelphirkalt 1y ago
I think this is somewhat misunderstanding my complaint. When I download the AMD drivers directly from AMD websites, they are fine mostly. It is just that Windows every now and then decides to replace them with the shit that comes with Windows update. I never tell it to do that and it acts in such an idiotic way.

londons_explore 1y ago

MS could easily say "If users with your driver installed have more than a 10% higher reboot/app crash/windows reinstall/BSOD rate than typical users, then your company will be fined $1 per computer affected per month till the issue is resolved.". Suddenly every company would be putting loads more effort into battle testing their drivers when there is a financial cost to buggy code.

shakna 1y ago
I think instead every company would suddenly be releasing their own Linux or BSD, and/or lobbying the government to break Microsoft up for being a monopoly. It'd be cheaper.
- bloomingeek 1y ago
  Here, here! It's time for an operating system revolution, nothing too radical, just enough to secure up company info. I realize this would be really difficult, but don't businesses see that MS wants even more control over their computers? How can any company trust their secret communications about an innovation that could be a boon for profits and expansion ever trust MS not to be spying on them? (Surely MS doesn't collaborate with the feds, which could possibly use this info to sabotage a company they don't like?!?)
  - shakna 1y ago
    Trusting MS means being able to strip down your own security teams. Right now, MS invading everything saves money on experts. (Yes, short term vision. But that's normal.) Business is usually willing to give up control if it directly increases profits.

thrownaway561 1y ago

You can turn that off and not have drivers installed through Windows Update. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/disable-driver-updates/63957b76-b55c-4c59-93f0-72835e9b2fff https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/disabl...

zelphirkalt 1y ago
What an intuitive way to wrench back control over installed drivers. Thank you, anyway.
- unaindz 1y ago
  And often it doesn't even work.