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Isn't there another way to find some place on earth (preferably an island) that will be outside international conventions? Wouldn't that be more viable and chea

by _csoz 14y ago

Isn't there another way to find some place on earth (preferably an island) that will be outside international conventions? Wouldn't that be more viable and cheaper than seasteading? I wonder if there have been attempts to do something like that in collaboration with some government. Regardless, this could be a profound experiment. If something good comes out of it, people will demand changes in world governance. (We ran out of governance ideas after the last french revolution) It's important for the institute to be completely transparent about what is being conducted there (legal or not), or else people are going to turn against it.

ceejayoz 14y ago
> Isn't there another way to find some place on earth (preferably an island) that will be outside international conventions? Wouldn't that be more viable and cheaper than seasteading? I wonder if there have been attempts to do something like that in collaboration with some government. It has been tried. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Minerva http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Minerva Tonga forced them off the newly created island with a couple soldiers, and now they and Fiji are disputing which one of them owns it.
jcfrei 14y ago
there are a few pieces of unclaimed (or disputed) land left: the largest patch by far is: Marie Byrd Land ( a part of west Antarctica). because of the hostile conditions there you might be better off with with "seastanding".
ixacto 14y ago
A modest proposal for the establishment of an libertarian state: Well there is Antarctica or Somalia. Unless there is a radical new technology that allows us to control the weather, Antarctica is out. Somalia is a possibility though, for some libertarians to set up shop there. I don't think there is much industry in Somalia though, maybe a couple alliances with local war-lords? Then you would just have to cordon off an area by the coast, hire some child laborers to mine the area you wanted, put up some barriers and razor wire, and BAM we have a Randian paradise. Now we need hookers, industrially-produced Meth/Heroin/PCP/MDMA/Ganja along with every other drug available at the local quickimart. Mabey make a deal with a couple Chinese companies to build a deep-water port complex for their railroad out of central Africa to terminate at. Hire Blackwater/Xe/Academi/? trained fighters to defend the place. Who knows after a couple years you could develop it to look like Southern California and maybe attract some Arab princes to come down on from the Gulf on Holiday. Oh wait, this is totally crazy and is something drunken Randian college kids talk about. There is a damn good reason that SF and NYC are as successful as they are even with the high taxes and corruption: they have kick-ass universities, established business networks, and are major population centers.

by _csoz 14y ago

ceejayoz 14y ago

> Isn't there another way to find some place on earth (preferably an island) that will be outside international conventions? Wouldn't that be more viable and cheaper than seasteading? I wonder if there have been attempts to do something like that in collaboration with some government. It has been tried. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Minerva http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Minerva Tonga forced them off the newly created island with a couple soldiers, and now they and Fiji are disputing which one of them owns it.

jcfrei 14y ago

there are a few pieces of unclaimed (or disputed) land left: the largest patch by far is: Marie Byrd Land ( a part of west Antarctica). because of the hostile conditions there you might be better off with with "seastanding".

ixacto 14y ago

A modest proposal for the establishment of an libertarian state: Well there is Antarctica or Somalia. Unless there is a radical new technology that allows us to control the weather, Antarctica is out. Somalia is a possibility though, for some libertarians to set up shop there. I don't think there is much industry in Somalia though, maybe a couple alliances with local war-lords? Then you would just have to cordon off an area by the coast, hire some child laborers to mine the area you wanted, put up some barriers and razor wire, and BAM we have a Randian paradise. Now we need hookers, industrially-produced Meth/Heroin/PCP/MDMA/Ganja along with every other drug available at the local quickimart. Mabey make a deal with a couple Chinese companies to build a deep-water port complex for their railroad out of central Africa to terminate at. Hire Blackwater/Xe/Academi/? trained fighters to defend the place. Who knows after a couple years you could develop it to look like Southern California and maybe attract some Arab princes to come down on from the Gulf on Holiday. Oh wait, this is totally crazy and is something drunken Randian college kids talk about. There is a damn good reason that SF and NYC are as successful as they are even with the high taxes and corruption: they have kick-ass universities, established business networks, and are major population centers.