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I, for one, would buy one. Make it small and I would buy 3.

by tomgag 1y ago

teekert 1y ago
Me 3. It looks like they really won't though: [0] It's such a shame, vision-wise the GrapheneOS crew must be much closer to the FairPhone team than they are to Google and Samsung, one would guess... But the GrapheneOS people find security tech (such as secure enclaves) and update cycle very important. After the bad Pixel news, they find Samsung to be the best fit: [1] I would (as many here) also hope that they could somehow make the FairPhone crew step up in their security practices, help them do it. They would be the golden combo, except perhaps for things like camera quality and raw speed/AI chips. And possible the niche is just to small to be profitable. But a man can dream... I'd pay 1.5 to 2x normal price for a FairPhone/GrapheneOS combi, it would align with my values in almost all dimensions. And then I'd buy a Pebble and just be happy. I really don't know what to do when my iPhone 12 mini dies. I do like the iPhone, but I also liked my OnePlus3 with LineageOS. I was originally planning on a Pixel/GrapheneOS after this phone, but that dream has shatter I think... [0] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114721751616786103 https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114721751616786103 [1] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114721967328643999 https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114721967328643999
- IlikeKitties 1y ago
  > It's such a shame, vision-wise the GrapheneOS crew must be much closer to the FairPhone team than they are to Google and Samsung one would guess... But the GrapheneOS people find security tech such as secure enclaves etc very important. I seriously doubt that given fairphones track record in regards to updates and security. GrapheneOS Devs value timely updates and integration of security tech. Fairphone does neither.
  - teekert 1y ago
    FairPhone has such limited resources and needs to extract money from such a small niche, that they have hard choices to make. And it's sustainability above all. But if another party would help with the security aspects, that might change the equation for them. FairPhone may not be the most attractive partner security-wise but I think that the FairPhone team is much, much less likely to rug pull them like Google did (and Samsung may). Which has got to be worth something.

I, for one, would buy one. Make it small and I would buy 3.

by tomgag 1y ago

I, for one, would buy one. Make it small and I would buy 3.

Me 3. It looks like they really won't though: [0] It's such a shame, vision-wise the GrapheneOS crew must be much closer to the FairPhone team than they are to Google and Samsung, one would guess... But the GrapheneOS people find security tech (such as secure enclaves) and update cycle very important. After the bad Pixel news, they find Samsung to be the best fit: [1] I would (as many here) also hope that they could somehow make the FairPhone crew step up in their security practices, help them do it. They would be the golden combo, except perhaps for things like camera quality and raw speed/AI chips. And possible the niche is just to small to be profitable. But a man can dream... I'd pay 1.5 to 2x normal price for a FairPhone/GrapheneOS combi, it would align with my values in almost all dimensions. And then I'd buy a Pebble and just be happy. I really don't know what to do when my iPhone 12 mini dies. I do like the iPhone, but I also liked my OnePlus3 with LineageOS. I was originally planning on a Pixel/GrapheneOS after this phone, but that dream has shatter I think... [0] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114721751616786103 https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114721751616786103 [1] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114721967328643999 https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114721967328643999

IlikeKitties 1y ago
> It's such a shame, vision-wise the GrapheneOS crew must be much closer to the FairPhone team than they are to Google and Samsung one would guess... But the GrapheneOS people find security tech such as secure enclaves etc very important. I seriously doubt that given fairphones track record in regards to updates and security. GrapheneOS Devs value timely updates and integration of security tech. Fairphone does neither.
- teekert 1y ago
  FairPhone has such limited resources and needs to extract money from such a small niche, that they have hard choices to make. And it's sustainability above all. But if another party would help with the security aspects, that might change the equation for them. FairPhone may not be the most attractive partner security-wise but I think that the FairPhone team is much, much less likely to rug pull them like Google did (and Samsung may). Which has got to be worth something.