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A (small) gift to Linux on the desktop. MS’ own goal of strong-arming people on to Win11 continues unabated. Everyone gets sick of it at their own point. Each

A (small) gift to Linux on the desktop. MS’ own goal of strong-arming people on to Win11 continues unabated. Everyone gets sick of it at their own point. Each thing sends more people to alternatives! Windows team: whoever’s making your decisions is doing great!

7speter 1y ago
The funniest part is if you search for Linux on tiktok you get inundated with Microsoft ads
pjmlp 1y ago
I keep seeing this since Windows XP days, when DX 10 going to be Vista only, and that would be surely be the point that would drive everyone into GNU/Linux. Instead even me, I went back to Windows as major laptop OS back when Windows 7 came out, leaving GNU/Linux for servers and embedded, while enjoying Android/Linux and WebOS/Linux on the other devices. Microsoft already has their own distro for Azure, they just need to give a bit more relevance to WSL role on Windows laptops, doing an Apple move, and everyone that only cares about UNIX/POSIX without religious attachment to a specific form of UNIX will feel right at home. Just like out of the sudden, a few years into OS X, there were Apple devices all over the place at FOSDEM.
- CoolCold 1y ago
  > they just need to give a bit more relevance to WSL role on Windows laptops, doing an Apple move Mind sharing a bit of info here - what do you mean and what Apple specifically did? > everyone that only cares about UNIX/POSIX without religious attachment I've personally helped to start with WSL for several persons, though I cannot say do they care on POSIX and UNIX as a concepts at all.
  - pjmlp 1y ago
    The Year of Desktop FOSS UNIX died when NeXT reverse acquired Apple, and made NeXTSTEP the foundation of OS X. Suddenly everyone that only cared about some form of UNIX/POSIX, regardless of the source, went into droves into the Apple ecosystem. These are the same folks that nowadays complain about leaving macOS for some Linux/BSD distribution, as they didn't grasp the actual Apple/NeXT developer culture (see Steve Jobs famous jabs at UNIX in its traditional form). Microsoft with WSL is kind of approaching the same crowd, those of us that were already happy enough using a mix of VMWare Workstation, Virtual Box, cygwin/migwin, that have had enough of dual bottling, and the usual "everything works but".
    - CoolCold 1y ago
      oh, I totally agree on Microsoft is providing UNIXy like and UNIXish enough platform with WSL. Though nowdays, we mostly mean Linux when saying UNIX. From my personal experience and some opinions by others, even here on HN, WSL is the mix which provides best of two worlds for a lot of cases.

7speter 1y ago

The funniest part is if you search for Linux on tiktok you get inundated with Microsoft ads

pjmlp 1y ago

I keep seeing this since Windows XP days, when DX 10 going to be Vista only, and that would be surely be the point that would drive everyone into GNU/Linux. Instead even me, I went back to Windows as major laptop OS back when Windows 7 came out, leaving GNU/Linux for servers and embedded, while enjoying Android/Linux and WebOS/Linux on the other devices. Microsoft already has their own distro for Azure, they just need to give a bit more relevance to WSL role on Windows laptops, doing an Apple move, and everyone that only cares about UNIX/POSIX without religious attachment to a specific form of UNIX will feel right at home. Just like out of the sudden, a few years into OS X, there were Apple devices all over the place at FOSDEM.

CoolCold 1y ago
> they just need to give a bit more relevance to WSL role on Windows laptops, doing an Apple move Mind sharing a bit of info here - what do you mean and what Apple specifically did? > everyone that only cares about UNIX/POSIX without religious attachment I've personally helped to start with WSL for several persons, though I cannot say do they care on POSIX and UNIX as a concepts at all.
- pjmlp 1y ago
  The Year of Desktop FOSS UNIX died when NeXT reverse acquired Apple, and made NeXTSTEP the foundation of OS X. Suddenly everyone that only cared about some form of UNIX/POSIX, regardless of the source, went into droves into the Apple ecosystem. These are the same folks that nowadays complain about leaving macOS for some Linux/BSD distribution, as they didn't grasp the actual Apple/NeXT developer culture (see Steve Jobs famous jabs at UNIX in its traditional form). Microsoft with WSL is kind of approaching the same crowd, those of us that were already happy enough using a mix of VMWare Workstation, Virtual Box, cygwin/migwin, that have had enough of dual bottling, and the usual "everything works but".
  - CoolCold 1y ago
    oh, I totally agree on Microsoft is providing UNIXy like and UNIXish enough platform with WSL. Though nowdays, we mostly mean Linux when saying UNIX. From my personal experience and some opinions by others, even here on HN, WSL is the mix which provides best of two worlds for a lot of cases.