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It's global. Here is something on Australia : https://theconversation.com/australia-has-way-more-phd-graduates-than-academic-jobs-heres-how-to-rethink-doctora

by sien 1y ago

It's global. Here is something on Australia : https://theconversation.com/australia-has-way-more-phd-graduates-than-academic-jobs-heres-how-to-rethink-doctoral-degrees-203057 https://theconversation.com/australia-has-way-more-phd-gradu... Key quotes : The number of PhD completions has been steadily growing over the past two decades, from about 4,000 to about 10,000 per year. According to our calculations* based on the information available, the cumulative number of people in Australia with a PhD has increased from about 135,000 in 2016 to about 185,000 in 2021. The incentives are for Universities to get smart young people to do their work cheaply. What happens to the graduates afterwards ceases to be the University's problem. The only strange thing about it is that the smart young people are taking so long to figure it out.

lapcat 1y ago
> The only strange thing about it is that the smart young people are taking so long to figure it out. I don't think it's so strange. They're smart in their chosen fields, but intelligence is not wisdom or hard experience. Moreover, intelligence breeds confidence, often overconfidence, the idea that you'll be the one to beat the odds. I suppose the same thing happens to young, talented athletes, for example.
- aleph_minus_one 1y ago
  > Moreover, intelligence breeds confidence, often overconfidence Quite the opposite: intelligence is linked to depression: https://engl105sp2020.web.unc.edu/2020/02/is-there-a-link-between-intelligence-and-depression/ https://engl105sp2020.web.unc.edu/2020/02/is-there-a-link-be...
  - lapcat 1y ago
    1) Mental illness is not the opposite of academic confidence. And graduate school applicants must demonstrate undergraduate academic achievement in order to be accepted, so there is a clear basis for confidence. 2) IQ is pseudoscience. 3) "Karpinski and her team emailed several members of a group named “American Mensa” OMG just stop right there. 4) "The authors of this study could not find a similar group of average intelligence people to utilize as a control group, so they used national data regarding disorders of people with any range of intelligence and assumed overall intelligence would be average." Garbage.
aleph_minus_one 1y ago
> The only strange thing about it is that the smart young people are taking so long to figure it out. They find out very fast, but come to the conclusion that academia is one of the few places where their intelligence is valued.

by sien 1y ago

lapcat 1y ago

> The only strange thing about it is that the smart young people are taking so long to figure it out. I don't think it's so strange. They're smart in their chosen fields, but intelligence is not wisdom or hard experience. Moreover, intelligence breeds confidence, often overconfidence, the idea that you'll be the one to beat the odds. I suppose the same thing happens to young, talented athletes, for example.

aleph_minus_one 1y ago
> Moreover, intelligence breeds confidence, often overconfidence Quite the opposite: intelligence is linked to depression: https://engl105sp2020.web.unc.edu/2020/02/is-there-a-link-between-intelligence-and-depression/ https://engl105sp2020.web.unc.edu/2020/02/is-there-a-link-be...
- lapcat 1y ago
  1) Mental illness is not the opposite of academic confidence. And graduate school applicants must demonstrate undergraduate academic achievement in order to be accepted, so there is a clear basis for confidence. 2) IQ is pseudoscience. 3) "Karpinski and her team emailed several members of a group named “American Mensa” OMG just stop right there. 4) "The authors of this study could not find a similar group of average intelligence people to utilize as a control group, so they used national data regarding disorders of people with any range of intelligence and assumed overall intelligence would be average." Garbage.

aleph_minus_one 1y ago

> The only strange thing about it is that the smart young people are taking so long to figure it out. They find out very fast, but come to the conclusion that academia is one of the few places where their intelligence is valued.