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their target audience does not know what a "docker" is, much less wants to lease a server for hosting

mslansn 1y ago
You can teach someone how to rent a vps and run a docker image with one 10-minute youtube video. Then they can use the drag and drop editor and run the bot themselves. If they don’t want to pay for hosting that’s too bad. A vps to run a bot will cost a couple bucks a month.
- swyx 1y ago
  yes but also once you let that happen there will be thousands of discord servers holding tokens, with no security updates...
- koakuma-chan 1y ago
  It's actually pretty hard to install Docker... Add Docker official GPG key... Install a bunch of crap...
  - mslansn 1y ago
    Literally four commands that can be copypasted. https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/fedora/#install-using-the-repository https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/fedora/#install-using...
    - koakuma-chan 1y ago
      Look at Debian
      - straight_bender 1y ago
        [dead]
      - Mashimo 1y ago
        It's in the repository, no? I don't remember having trouble installing docker on debian.
        koakuma-chan 1y ago
        You need to add their repository. It's way harder than it should be.
        Mashimo 1y ago
        I'm 80% sure i use this one and it works for me https://packages.debian.org/trixie/docker.io https://packages.debian.org/trixie/docker.io
      - literalAardvark 1y ago
        Still a single copy/paste...
- JadoJodo 1y ago
  *You can teach ~someone~ a very technical user how to … I get the non-techie blindspot that all of us have in some form or another. With that in mind: it took three days to give my brother a crash course in Linux + Docker for his own home server (and even then he only knew the very basics). He’s fairly proficient in tech: builds his own desktops, knows the basics of code, doesn’t shy away from digging into the why, etc. It would be unrealistic (and frankly irresponsible) to expect someone to setup _and understand_ a Docker server setup from a 10-minute video.

You can teach someone how to rent a vps and run a docker image with one 10-minute youtube video. Then they can use the drag and drop editor and run the bot themselves. If they don’t want to pay for hosting that’s too bad. A vps to run a bot will cost a couple bucks a month.

swyx 1y ago
yes but also once you let that happen there will be thousands of discord servers holding tokens, with no security updates...
koakuma-chan 1y ago
It's actually pretty hard to install Docker... Add Docker official GPG key... Install a bunch of crap...
- mslansn 1y ago
  Literally four commands that can be copypasted. https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/fedora/#install-using-the-repository https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/fedora/#install-using...
  - koakuma-chan 1y ago
    Look at Debian
    - straight_bender 1y ago
      [dead]
    - Mashimo 1y ago
      It's in the repository, no? I don't remember having trouble installing docker on debian.
      - koakuma-chan 1y ago
        You need to add their repository. It's way harder than it should be.
        Mashimo 1y ago
        I'm 80% sure i use this one and it works for me https://packages.debian.org/trixie/docker.io https://packages.debian.org/trixie/docker.io
    - literalAardvark 1y ago
      Still a single copy/paste...
JadoJodo 1y ago
*You can teach ~someone~ a very technical user how to … I get the non-techie blindspot that all of us have in some form or another. With that in mind: it took three days to give my brother a crash course in Linux + Docker for his own home server (and even then he only knew the very basics). He’s fairly proficient in tech: builds his own desktops, knows the basics of code, doesn’t shy away from digging into the why, etc. It would be unrealistic (and frankly irresponsible) to expect someone to setup _and understand_ a Docker server setup from a 10-minute video.