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Howdy – Windows Hello style facial authentication for Linux
- deafpolygon 1y agoWhy does it depend on python2…?
- Arnavion 1y agoAsk the Fedora maintainer? The README instructions only say Python 3. The OpenSUSE package's specfile only says Python 3, and to be sure I tried installing it and it did not pull in Python 2 packages. Actually even the Fedora package's specfile only says Python 3, so I'm not sure why the README says that it still needs Python 2. Edit: Okay, the explanation is in this commit message: https://github.com/boltgolt/howdy/commit/305e42fc79ef38f66c51e7a06009df057a6a6501 https://github.com/boltgolt/howdy/commit/305e42fc79ef38f66c5... . The dep on Python 2 is from Fedora's PAM module package, not from howdy itself. On OpenSUSE the corresponding PAM module package depends on Python 3 already.
- aitchnyu 1y agoLast time I tried it, I wished the DM indicated its processing my face and also if it failed, and a button to retry. Also will the model be fooled by an IR photo of my face? I did have fun opening the IR camera feed and seeing objects of various opacity in visible spectrum behaving differently in IR.
- Boltgolt 1y agoMain dev here: If you're on the 3.0 version you'll be able to install howdy-gtk, which will show a popup at the top of your screen when authenticating. You can also enable "rubberstamps" which require an action from you like nodding yes to confirm authentication and making it harder to fool. As noted in the readme though, Howdy is never going to be 100% secure
- charcircuit 1y agoThis isn't "Windows Hello style." This program extracts features from a 2d image instead of doing depth reconstruction first. This makes it easy to fool with a piece of paper. Also this only handles user authentication unlike on Windows where it can be usedpasskey. disk encryption and for passkeys. Edit: This program also saves the landmarks of your face into a file in plain text when it gets added.
- senectus1 1y agoyeah its more of a taster demo. I wish them luck in developing it properly though... I'm doing an ubuntu MOE for a corp atm and man, I really miss the windows hello logins.
- _joel 1y agoIs 'Hello' and those kind of biometrics generally enabled at $CORP? The ones I've gigged at have been the polar opposite of using it, due to regulatroy requirements. Even disabling macos fingerprint reader company-wide, which is prerry darn good imho.
- senectus1 1y agoyeah hello encompass facial recognition (must be dual IR cams), Fingerprint sensor and PIN. none are perfect but they allow users to easily access their devices without having to remember and type in huge passwords.
- lozenge 1y agoI've had the opposite experience, my CORP now pushes most auth through my phone's biometric authentication, I don't even use a password.
- written-beyond 1y agoReally? When I tried on an hp spectre 5 years ago it made the hell sensors make a horrible clicking sounds and the LEDs glow red. I assumed it was doing something with depth analysis.
- bsimpson 1y agoI know there was extensive testing when face recognition authentication came to smartphones. I wonder how an open source project like this one compares. I suspect there are substantially more false positives/negatives than on a commercially developed version that needs to support everyone to be successful.
- e-topy 1y agoApple's Face ID uses what is essentially a 3D camera, a simple 2D color camera cannot compare to that in terms of accuracy.
- lozenge 1y agoWindows also uses infrared LEDs to light your face and prevent a flat photo from being recognised as a face.
- throwaway889900 1y agoWindows is an operating system and does not have dependence on specific hardware being present.
- 98codes 1y agoThere are definitely webcams that work with Windows Hello, and those that don't.
- zettabomb 1y agoIncorrect. Windows Hello uses special hardware.
- throwaway889900 1y agoRight, Windows Hello requires it for facial auth, Windows itself does not. Hello still works, just you have to authenticate with a different method if the hardware isn't present.
- joelthelion 1y agoI wish we had good support for fingerprint readers instead.
- cyp0633 1y agoI use fprintd and it works well with GNOME + builtin Elan sensor. It indeed needs more complex configuration than Touch ID or Windows Hello though.
- mouse_ 1y agoIn Fedora it's (supposed to be) pretty simple. Just go into settings -> users and add your fingerprint. In practice I usually have to use dnf to nuke pam and reinstall it manually for it to start working. But they have a good skeleton set up. Still no predesktop authentication, though.
- Pwntastic 1y agoIt was relatively easy to setup a yubikey bio fingerprint device in arch with pam-u2f. I just kinda followed the wiki here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Universal_2nd_Factor https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Universal_2nd_Factor It wasn't strictly plug and play, but it only took like 20 minutes of fiddling.
- simtel20 1y agoI thought yubikeys only provided a sensor for the fact that the sensor was touched, vs fingerprint resets that actually distinguish whose fingerprint is touching the sensor before being usable as an authenticator
- Pwntastic 1y agomost of them only have touch sensors but the yubikey bio series devices have actual fingerprint readers, and as part of the device setup you register one or more fingerprints which are then stored on the device itself
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- fsateler 1y agoThe project seems active, but the last release is from 2020... Why no new releases?
- 1970-01-01 1y agoThe gift of open source strikes yet again. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29736369 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29736369
- ycombinatrix 1y agoWhy does it need a new release if it works?
- seany 1y agoI wonder what it would take to get an OSS fr model to decent performance on the NIST/iBeta rankings.
- mouse_ 1y agoPredesktop authentication is a killer feature. Hope to see it some day.