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> Full legalization is coming, one way or another I used to think this, and it may be true in the very long run. However, the country is clearly in the midst o

by runako 1y ago

> Full legalization is coming, one way or another I used to think this, and it may be true in the very long run. However, the country is clearly in the midst of a long pivot backwards. The current backsliding has been going on for the better part of a decade, and there are no indications that it is near its end. I guess we'll see.

thinkingtoilet 1y ago
You are correct about our backslide, but rich white males like pot so I think it could move forward while other rights and laws are being reversed.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago
  It's amazing how thorough a cross section of society I see when I visit weed stores. Every age, every race. "I just got out of bed" clothes and business suits. Work boots and high heels. In the last couple years, I've had several work conversations where someone off hand mentioned the edibles they took for a concert the previous weekend, or the weed vape they took camping, or some other personal life story involving weed. Not in a hushed private conversation, it's in the small talk before a meeting kicks off. It's become very normalized. Even 5 years ago I would be shocked at someone casually discussing their weed usage with coworkers. And the tax money. Oh boy the tax money.
  - thinkingtoilet 1y ago
    I agree. From day one of legalization, it wasn't a bunch of hippies at the dispensaries. It was people from all walks of life.
  - dzhiurgis 1y ago
    I like how in The Netherlands coffee shops you can actually smoke weed. Is that available in US? The shops I’ve visited in US were very high end, you get carded, etc. While in The Netherlands patrons seem to be pretty low class, occasionally borderline mental.
    - sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago
      That depends on the state. The stores in the state where I do my buying does not allow smoking or vaping of any kind on the property. I seem to recall in at least one other state I visited, there were signs for a smoking lounge.
- alephnerd 1y ago
  It's popular among downwardly mobile males (a major swing demographic now) AND farmers now as well (plenty of top Ag schools now offer degrees or certificates in Cannabis cultivation). And every municipality loves the tax implications - a side effect of the lackadaisical recovery of local budgets from Covid.
  - swed420 1y ago
    Many professionals also use cannabis but choose to not advertise it since misinformation is still so rampant, originating from the "Reefer Madness" propaganda days. The tradeoff of potential career damage just isn't worth it. Carl Sagan understood this, among many others: https://bigthink.com/health/carl-sagan-on-smoking-marijuana/ https://bigthink.com/health/carl-sagan-on-smoking-marijuana/
- runako 1y ago
  > rich white males are not a homogeneous group. Part of the backsliding is that the subset that is socially liberal is losing power, being replaced by those who seek to promote yet more restrictions on individual liberties. There's rich guys on both sides of this.
  - thinkingtoilet 1y ago
    Of course not. This goes for literally everything. Hardly a comment that needs to be made.

by runako 1y ago

thinkingtoilet 1y ago

You are correct about our backslide, but rich white males like pot so I think it could move forward while other rights and laws are being reversed.

sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago
It's amazing how thorough a cross section of society I see when I visit weed stores. Every age, every race. "I just got out of bed" clothes and business suits. Work boots and high heels. In the last couple years, I've had several work conversations where someone off hand mentioned the edibles they took for a concert the previous weekend, or the weed vape they took camping, or some other personal life story involving weed. Not in a hushed private conversation, it's in the small talk before a meeting kicks off. It's become very normalized. Even 5 years ago I would be shocked at someone casually discussing their weed usage with coworkers. And the tax money. Oh boy the tax money.
- thinkingtoilet 1y ago
  I agree. From day one of legalization, it wasn't a bunch of hippies at the dispensaries. It was people from all walks of life.
- dzhiurgis 1y ago
  I like how in The Netherlands coffee shops you can actually smoke weed. Is that available in US? The shops I’ve visited in US were very high end, you get carded, etc. While in The Netherlands patrons seem to be pretty low class, occasionally borderline mental.
  - sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago
    That depends on the state. The stores in the state where I do my buying does not allow smoking or vaping of any kind on the property. I seem to recall in at least one other state I visited, there were signs for a smoking lounge.
alephnerd 1y ago
It's popular among downwardly mobile males (a major swing demographic now) AND farmers now as well (plenty of top Ag schools now offer degrees or certificates in Cannabis cultivation). And every municipality loves the tax implications - a side effect of the lackadaisical recovery of local budgets from Covid.
- swed420 1y ago
  Many professionals also use cannabis but choose to not advertise it since misinformation is still so rampant, originating from the "Reefer Madness" propaganda days. The tradeoff of potential career damage just isn't worth it. Carl Sagan understood this, among many others: https://bigthink.com/health/carl-sagan-on-smoking-marijuana/ https://bigthink.com/health/carl-sagan-on-smoking-marijuana/
runako 1y ago
> rich white males are not a homogeneous group. Part of the backsliding is that the subset that is socially liberal is losing power, being replaced by those who seek to promote yet more restrictions on individual liberties. There's rich guys on both sides of this.
- thinkingtoilet 1y ago
  Of course not. This goes for literally everything. Hardly a comment that needs to be made.