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Isn't Hertz that company that was getting innocent customers arrested and even jailed for stealing cars? Yes, yes they are. https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140

Isn't Hertz that company that was getting innocent customers arrested and even jailed for stealing cars? Yes, yes they are. https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140998674/hertz-false-accusation-stealing-cars-settlement https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140998674/hertz-false-accusa... Never do business with Hertz.

jasonthorsness 1y ago
I don't understand how they survived this reporting as a company. Amazing how slowly and ineffectively information permeates the world.
- sidewndr46 1y ago
  It's almost like corporations face no penalty for what is an obviously criminal act
  - imglorp 1y ago
    An obviously profitable criminal act which impresses shareholders. The stock is up 50% since April. Same thing we're seeing with United Healthcare: shareholders see a horrifying, inhumane, murderous but profitable denial policy and clap with glee. The system is broken.
    - sidewndr46 1y ago
      I wonder if Hertz can close the loop by using imprisoned customers as a cheap source of labor?
- TheChaplain 1y ago
  My guess it hat they have a sizeable income through business renting, so companies rent or pay the invoice. And they probably don't care about extra fees on the bill.
- amy214 1y ago
  It's also an easy fact to remember - renting from Hertz, Hurts
YawningAngel 1y ago
It sounds like the real damage here was done by US law enforcement. Not to excuse Hertz
- alwa 1y ago
  I mean… perhaps, but is it really the police’s job to scrutinize the company’s records substantiating its claims of theft? “The big well-established company is straight-up lying to me about this supposed crime that happened, and fabricating the documentation that proves it” seems like a heuristic that would not normally be the right one… I’ve personally had to pursue cases where somebody just took a fleet rental vehicle across the country and started driving Uber with it. It was basically written off as “shrug guess we lost it” (!) until the org got a recent speed camera ticket in the mail. Somehow I feel like the default case that makes it to the police turns out to be closer to that situation than to “the organization alwa was working with just fabricated this bizarre tale on a lark.” It’s so much easier to just write it off as a loss, or handle it without LE. I feel like it’s not just the US system that’s ill-prepared for well-reputed large institutions to fabricate tales of victimhood and extensive paper trails to “back it up.” Well… “paper” trails from poorly-implemented computer systems, anyway… The UK police (and also their courts) were similarly ill-prepared when the Post Office and Fujitsu straight-up lied about missing money in the Horizon scandal.
  - gambiting 1y ago
    >> mean… perhaps, but is it really the police’s job to scrutinize the company’s records substantiating its claims of theft? Not only it's not, keeping the car for longer than you rented it for isn't theft, it's a breach of contract and it's a civil not criminal matter. So indeed, Police shouldn't be involved at all.
    - alwa 1y ago
      I mean eventually it becomes theft, doesn’t it? There’s some kind of line where your behavior demonstrates you have no real intention to return it? The guy who took the car across many states and started driving Uber with it—he’d been assigned the vehicle for 3 days, claimed to have brought it back to the yard, but actually was using it to make his living every day for 6 months by the time we heard about it… surely that’s a bit closer to “he took it” than “he messed up the return date,” isn’t it?

jasonthorsness 1y ago

I don't understand how they survived this reporting as a company. Amazing how slowly and ineffectively information permeates the world.

sidewndr46 1y ago
It's almost like corporations face no penalty for what is an obviously criminal act
- imglorp 1y ago
  An obviously profitable criminal act which impresses shareholders. The stock is up 50% since April. Same thing we're seeing with United Healthcare: shareholders see a horrifying, inhumane, murderous but profitable denial policy and clap with glee. The system is broken.
  - sidewndr46 1y ago
    I wonder if Hertz can close the loop by using imprisoned customers as a cheap source of labor?
TheChaplain 1y ago
My guess it hat they have a sizeable income through business renting, so companies rent or pay the invoice. And they probably don't care about extra fees on the bill.
amy214 1y ago
It's also an easy fact to remember - renting from Hertz, Hurts

YawningAngel 1y ago

It sounds like the real damage here was done by US law enforcement. Not to excuse Hertz

alwa 1y ago
I mean… perhaps, but is it really the police’s job to scrutinize the company’s records substantiating its claims of theft? “The big well-established company is straight-up lying to me about this supposed crime that happened, and fabricating the documentation that proves it” seems like a heuristic that would not normally be the right one… I’ve personally had to pursue cases where somebody just took a fleet rental vehicle across the country and started driving Uber with it. It was basically written off as “shrug guess we lost it” (!) until the org got a recent speed camera ticket in the mail. Somehow I feel like the default case that makes it to the police turns out to be closer to that situation than to “the organization alwa was working with just fabricated this bizarre tale on a lark.” It’s so much easier to just write it off as a loss, or handle it without LE. I feel like it’s not just the US system that’s ill-prepared for well-reputed large institutions to fabricate tales of victimhood and extensive paper trails to “back it up.” Well… “paper” trails from poorly-implemented computer systems, anyway… The UK police (and also their courts) were similarly ill-prepared when the Post Office and Fujitsu straight-up lied about missing money in the Horizon scandal.
- gambiting 1y ago
  >> mean… perhaps, but is it really the police’s job to scrutinize the company’s records substantiating its claims of theft? Not only it's not, keeping the car for longer than you rented it for isn't theft, it's a breach of contract and it's a civil not criminal matter. So indeed, Police shouldn't be involved at all.
  - alwa 1y ago
    I mean eventually it becomes theft, doesn’t it? There’s some kind of line where your behavior demonstrates you have no real intention to return it? The guy who took the car across many states and started driving Uber with it—he’d been assigned the vehicle for 3 days, claimed to have brought it back to the yard, but actually was using it to make his living every day for 6 months by the time we heard about it… surely that’s a bit closer to “he took it” than “he messed up the return date,” isn’t it?