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This is not the same issue you are talking about. Cars are repairable, phones are not, this is why this regulation is coming about. There are modules that nee

by zejn 1y ago

This is not the same issue you are talking about. Cars are repairable, phones are not, this is why this regulation is coming about. There are modules that need replacement in whole, but same is true for this regulation regarding to phones: display and touchscreen modules are replaced as whole, not per component. Not great, but not too shabby, given the only other choice was to toss it. The bigger part is manufacturers have to provide OS support for 5 years after the last phone was sold.

627467 1y ago
> This is not the same issue you are talking about. > Cars are repairable, phones are not, this is why this regulation is coming about Anything is repairable given enough resources. It's very obvious electronics are targeted but not cars as protection for local manufacturers biz models.
FirmwareBurner 1y ago
>This is not the same issue you are talking about. You're right, car repairability is an even bigger issue than phones. >Cars are repairable, phones are not New cars are repairable only by the authorized dealer, with authorize parts and tools, and those parts are maliciously engineered as modules where for a 2$ defective connector the dealer will replace a 1000$ module and electrical harness because they don't sell the 2$ connector separately, they sell the whole thing as a module/kit. How is that not anti consumer and anti environment? If my phone breaks and can't easily fix it, I can buy a new one for 200$, or keep my old one as a backup until I figure out something. Meanwhile if my car breaks, I can't buy a new car on a whim, and most people also can't afford to keep a backup car around. This is a WAY bigger issues than non repairable phones. A defective car is a much bigger household expense than a broken smartphone.
- Jensson 1y ago
  > New cars are repairable only by the authorized dealer, with authorize parts and tools You can change tires and oil without going to an authorized dealer for all the cars I know. You couldn't do the equivalent for some phones, like changing battery or screen.
  - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
    Phones don't need oil changes. We're talking about things that break not regular maintenance. Even if your battery degrades you can still get a power bank, it's a popular cheap workaround that works well, it's not such a life or death issue as some people make it be. But a broken down car can be for many people.

by zejn 1y ago

627467 1y ago

> This is not the same issue you are talking about. > Cars are repairable, phones are not, this is why this regulation is coming about Anything is repairable given enough resources. It's very obvious electronics are targeted but not cars as protection for local manufacturers biz models.

FirmwareBurner 1y ago

>This is not the same issue you are talking about. You're right, car repairability is an even bigger issue than phones. >Cars are repairable, phones are not New cars are repairable only by the authorized dealer, with authorize parts and tools, and those parts are maliciously engineered as modules where for a 2$ defective connector the dealer will replace a 1000$ module and electrical harness because they don't sell the 2$ connector separately, they sell the whole thing as a module/kit. How is that not anti consumer and anti environment? If my phone breaks and can't easily fix it, I can buy a new one for 200$, or keep my old one as a backup until I figure out something. Meanwhile if my car breaks, I can't buy a new car on a whim, and most people also can't afford to keep a backup car around. This is a WAY bigger issues than non repairable phones. A defective car is a much bigger household expense than a broken smartphone.

Jensson 1y ago
> New cars are repairable only by the authorized dealer, with authorize parts and tools You can change tires and oil without going to an authorized dealer for all the cars I know. You couldn't do the equivalent for some phones, like changing battery or screen.
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  Phones don't need oil changes. We're talking about things that break not regular maintenance. Even if your battery degrades you can still get a power bank, it's a popular cheap workaround that works well, it's not such a life or death issue as some people make it be. But a broken down car can be for many people.