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I work daily in Cursor, producing around 200k lines of code per week, though only a small portion ends up being truly effective (still significantly more than w

I work daily in Cursor, producing around 200k lines of code per week, though only a small portion ends up being truly effective (still significantly more than what I could achieve on my own before). I think we need to adapt to these changes and focus on shaping better workflows to fully harness the potential of AI.

boothby 1y ago
I've gotta ask. Who wants you to write that much code and why?
- repsiace 1y ago
  It's just one way of working. In reality, I only need a few thousand lines of effective code out of it. If I were to do it all on my own, it would likely take two to three times longer—perhaps with better or worse quality. While LLMs generate code incredibly fast, the full process of trial, error, and debugging takes more time. Additionally, since this involves multiple projects and contexts, a lot of junk code inevitably gets generated along the way.
  - mittensc 1y ago
    > In reality, I only need a few thousand lines of effective code out of it. If I were to do it all on my own, it would likely take two to three times longer—perhaps with better or worse quality. Have you tried doing it on your own as comparison? Any lessons why that might be true? Are you missing some design/brainstorming stage that you are doing now by iterating through junk code and which might not be necessary? You might be right now, but you gain experience that you otherwise lose by delegating to the LLM. With experience the reverse might be true.
mittensc 1y ago
Why do you need yo write that much? Is it all just throw away code to test out ideas? Would libraries to help abstract stuff and you writing a few lines at a higher lever be better? Since you throw away most of the code, could you design a bit before jumping to code and just develop something near desired solution?
joshstrange 1y ago
That works out to 5K/hr (200k/5/8), that’s absurd verging on insane. It’s over a line of code a second. I’d fire someone who was putting out that “code”. Seriously, there is no way someone can review all that code so you must be solo (or at a place that doesn’t code review). If you aren’t reviewing your code then you are “vibe coding” (said with maximum derision) and what you are “building” is a house of cards.
- jf22 1y ago
  The discussions about AI code always devolve into "derision" comments like this. "You are a dumb vibe coder producing bad slop" You don't know anything about the code, the project, the person, but feel justified to insult and demean.
  - joshstrange 1y ago
    > 200k lines of code per week Do you seriously think that someone can write/review/maintain that? Either they are lying about the output or they _are_ creating slop, period. Ridiculous comments like that should _not_ go unchallenged, I wouldn't want younger-me seeing that and thinking it was normal or a good idea.
    - jf22 1y ago
      Yes, I do. You didn't challenge, you insulted. You can ask how they ensure quality, what the review process is like, what QA is like, how do humans keep up with that pace of change, etc.
      - BugheadTorpeda6 1y ago
        In this case, it deserves an insult. The answer to all of those hypotheticals is "you don't, it's impossible". Please, go ahead and tell us how you ensure all of those things. I would very much like to hear what you have to say because it will be groundbreaking for the whole industry, clearly. You have found the golden goose.
      - 1y ago

boothby 1y ago

I've gotta ask. Who wants you to write that much code and why?

repsiace 1y ago
It's just one way of working. In reality, I only need a few thousand lines of effective code out of it. If I were to do it all on my own, it would likely take two to three times longer—perhaps with better or worse quality. While LLMs generate code incredibly fast, the full process of trial, error, and debugging takes more time. Additionally, since this involves multiple projects and contexts, a lot of junk code inevitably gets generated along the way.
- mittensc 1y ago
  > In reality, I only need a few thousand lines of effective code out of it. If I were to do it all on my own, it would likely take two to three times longer—perhaps with better or worse quality. Have you tried doing it on your own as comparison? Any lessons why that might be true? Are you missing some design/brainstorming stage that you are doing now by iterating through junk code and which might not be necessary? You might be right now, but you gain experience that you otherwise lose by delegating to the LLM. With experience the reverse might be true.

mittensc 1y ago

Why do you need yo write that much? Is it all just throw away code to test out ideas? Would libraries to help abstract stuff and you writing a few lines at a higher lever be better? Since you throw away most of the code, could you design a bit before jumping to code and just develop something near desired solution?

joshstrange 1y ago

That works out to 5K/hr (200k/5/8), that’s absurd verging on insane. It’s over a line of code a second. I’d fire someone who was putting out that “code”. Seriously, there is no way someone can review all that code so you must be solo (or at a place that doesn’t code review). If you aren’t reviewing your code then you are “vibe coding” (said with maximum derision) and what you are “building” is a house of cards.

jf22 1y ago
The discussions about AI code always devolve into "derision" comments like this. "You are a dumb vibe coder producing bad slop" You don't know anything about the code, the project, the person, but feel justified to insult and demean.
- joshstrange 1y ago
  > 200k lines of code per week Do you seriously think that someone can write/review/maintain that? Either they are lying about the output or they _are_ creating slop, period. Ridiculous comments like that should _not_ go unchallenged, I wouldn't want younger-me seeing that and thinking it was normal or a good idea.
  - jf22 1y ago
    Yes, I do. You didn't challenge, you insulted. You can ask how they ensure quality, what the review process is like, what QA is like, how do humans keep up with that pace of change, etc.
    - BugheadTorpeda6 1y ago
      In this case, it deserves an insult. The answer to all of those hypotheticals is "you don't, it's impossible". Please, go ahead and tell us how you ensure all of those things. I would very much like to hear what you have to say because it will be groundbreaking for the whole industry, clearly. You have found the golden goose.
    - 1y ago