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Milking motorists is very profitable. Stopping more problematic crime, not so much. So we end up with anarcho-tyranny, where 'real' crime is policed poorly, if

Milking motorists is very profitable. Stopping more problematic crime, not so much. So we end up with anarcho-tyranny, where 'real' crime is policed poorly, if at all - but loads of resources and tech are deployed aggressively policing+punishing mostly-law-abiding people for the most minor of infractions.

calvinmorrison 1y ago
Anarcho-Tyranny: A of government in which the good citizen lives in fear of government , while the criminals run amok without fear of repercussions.
- eth0up 1y ago
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  - dang 1y ago
    The comments you're talking about are getting flagged, mostly because they're off topic. Edit: I've unflagged some of the others, but here are some examples of the kind I mean: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44349249 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44349249 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44349183 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44349183 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44348874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44348874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44348759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44348759
    - eth0up 1y ago
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        dang 1y ago
        I don't want to ban you! I'd appreciate it if you'd stop posting these off-topic comments though. Everyone goes on tilt sometimes; it happens. But please stop.
mjmsmith 1y ago
This has nothing to do with "milking motorists", whatever that means. (The phrase generally seems to be used by people who are angry that they can't speed and run red lights with impunity).
- gametorch 1y ago
  > This has nothing to do with "milking motorists" Forcing motorists to pay for minor infractions is the entire point of the app.
  - bluescrn 1y ago
    So when actual criminals leave their stolen getaway car idling as they go and loot a store, the owner of the stolen car now gets an extra fully-automated fine with likely no way to appeal it, and the real criminals get away free.
    - mjmsmith 1y ago
      Upvoting this because I needed the laugh.
  - mjmsmith 1y ago
    The law applies to commercial vehicles. The aggregate effect of commercial vehicles ignoring the law isn't minor. You can find out more by following the links at the top of the page.
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nashashmi 1y ago
That’s a false comparison. Giving out tickets is a civil law violation. Combating crime is a different matter. You can criminally cheat civil laws as well at which point it becomes a criminal offense. But the treatment remains mostly civil instead of criminal. If you want more policing for criminal offenses, then officers need to be solely designated for those offenses. Right now they are bogged down with civil matters.

calvinmorrison 1y ago

Anarcho-Tyranny: A of government in which the good citizen lives in fear of government , while the criminals run amok without fear of repercussions.

eth0up 1y ago
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- dang 1y ago
  The comments you're talking about are getting flagged, mostly because they're off topic. Edit: I've unflagged some of the others, but here are some examples of the kind I mean: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44349249 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44349249 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44349183 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44349183 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44348874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44348874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44348759 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44348759
  - eth0up 1y ago
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    - eth0up 1y ago
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      - dang 1y ago
        I don't want to ban you! I'd appreciate it if you'd stop posting these off-topic comments though. Everyone goes on tilt sometimes; it happens. But please stop.

mjmsmith 1y ago

This has nothing to do with "milking motorists", whatever that means. (The phrase generally seems to be used by people who are angry that they can't speed and run red lights with impunity).

gametorch 1y ago
> This has nothing to do with "milking motorists" Forcing motorists to pay for minor infractions is the entire point of the app.
- bluescrn 1y ago
  So when actual criminals leave their stolen getaway car idling as they go and loot a store, the owner of the stolen car now gets an extra fully-automated fine with likely no way to appeal it, and the real criminals get away free.
  - mjmsmith 1y ago
    Upvoting this because I needed the laugh.
- mjmsmith 1y ago
  The law applies to commercial vehicles. The aggregate effect of commercial vehicles ignoring the law isn't minor. You can find out more by following the links at the top of the page.
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nashashmi 1y ago

That’s a false comparison. Giving out tickets is a civil law violation. Combating crime is a different matter. You can criminally cheat civil laws as well at which point it becomes a criminal offense. But the treatment remains mostly civil instead of criminal. If you want more policing for criminal offenses, then officers need to be solely designated for those offenses. Right now they are bogged down with civil matters.