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The application looks nice but… Why do all these Notion “replacements” seem to think Notion is just an MD editor and note taker. It seems the unique position o

The application looks nice but… Why do all these Notion “replacements” seem to think Notion is just an MD editor and note taker. It seems the unique position of notion is the ability to integrate databases into documents much less within each other. That’s the feature most of these replacements are missing. Honestly if Notion would offer a self hosted version for companies, that would be a killer feature. Until then, I’m waiting until a feature for feature open source replacement appears.

WolfOliver 1y ago
It is not a full notion replacement yet. But having team workspaces is around the corner as well as other knowledge management features.
paxys 1y ago
> Honestly if Notion would offer a self hosted version for companies, that would be a killer feature Cloud hosting is the killer feature. No one wants to be in the hosting business. There are enough other things for a company to worry about. Managing servers, deployments, zero downtime upgrades, security patches, monitoring CVEs, auth, 2FA, lost passwords, DDoS attacks, database maintenance, sharding, migration, load balancing, caching, DNS, reliability, latency, uptime, load testing, a million different dashboards, 24x7 on call... Paying $10/mo to offload all of this is a steal.
- input_sh 1y ago
  As if all self-hosted software don't also have a cloud hosting option as a way of generating income.
- razemio 1y ago
  That is so not true. At least here in germany cloud for any reputable company is at least difficult. Even with compliances in place. Self hosted is the prefered option for every company I worked for.
  - kristianc 1y ago
    Most markets are not Germany.
    - mus1cfl0w 1y ago
      Self hosting is a must for many companies working with strict regulatory compliance and security requirements. This is not exclusive to Germany and something I’m dealing with daily in the US..
- sky2224 1y ago
  Not true in my experience. A lot of companies make self-hosting a requirement since they're working with sensitive data that they want to keep on premises.
bryanhogan 1y ago
I think the project mentioned here is very cool and something I am looking for, will definitely try it out. But highly agree that calling it a Notion replacement/alternative is mislabling it. But I've seen this often on HN nowadays, any note-taking application = Notion.
geniium 1y ago
Thanks for saying that. Just came here wanting to write the same. The db feature and the reminders are the most missed features in notion alternative.
whalesalad 1y ago
The actual "word processor" or editor of notion is hot garbage, especially for software/keyboard people. Try out something like https://ckeditor.com/ https://ckeditor.com/ and it is infinitely better.

WolfOliver 1y ago

It is not a full notion replacement yet. But having team workspaces is around the corner as well as other knowledge management features.

paxys 1y ago

> Honestly if Notion would offer a self hosted version for companies, that would be a killer feature Cloud hosting is the killer feature. No one wants to be in the hosting business. There are enough other things for a company to worry about. Managing servers, deployments, zero downtime upgrades, security patches, monitoring CVEs, auth, 2FA, lost passwords, DDoS attacks, database maintenance, sharding, migration, load balancing, caching, DNS, reliability, latency, uptime, load testing, a million different dashboards, 24x7 on call... Paying $10/mo to offload all of this is a steal.

input_sh 1y ago
As if all self-hosted software don't also have a cloud hosting option as a way of generating income.
razemio 1y ago
That is so not true. At least here in germany cloud for any reputable company is at least difficult. Even with compliances in place. Self hosted is the prefered option for every company I worked for.
- kristianc 1y ago
  Most markets are not Germany.
  - mus1cfl0w 1y ago
    Self hosting is a must for many companies working with strict regulatory compliance and security requirements. This is not exclusive to Germany and something I’m dealing with daily in the US..
sky2224 1y ago
Not true in my experience. A lot of companies make self-hosting a requirement since they're working with sensitive data that they want to keep on premises.

bryanhogan 1y ago

I think the project mentioned here is very cool and something I am looking for, will definitely try it out. But highly agree that calling it a Notion replacement/alternative is mislabling it. But I've seen this often on HN nowadays, any note-taking application = Notion.

geniium 1y ago

Thanks for saying that. Just came here wanting to write the same. The db feature and the reminders are the most missed features in notion alternative.

whalesalad 1y ago

The actual "word processor" or editor of notion is hot garbage, especially for software/keyboard people. Try out something like https://ckeditor.com/ https://ckeditor.com/ and it is infinitely better.