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No, people flock to Xlibre because of Weigelt's political opinions. They are unhappy because Wayland is developed by "woke" people, thus the need to continue to

No, people flock to Xlibre because of Weigelt's political opinions. They are unhappy because Wayland is developed by "woke" people, thus the need to continue to use X11.

OCASMv2 1y ago
How do know? Did you ask everyone involved for their motivations?
jauntywundrkind 1y ago
My feel is that this is 100% dead on, that the agitators have found their mark to radicalize, anger, and make proper pests of folks who want to be tilting and mad. Politics lead here; anything for their anti-causes.
- em-bee 1y ago
  well here is the proof to the contrary: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/X11Libre#Disclaimer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/X11Libre#Disclaimer Summary Replace the X.Org X11 Xserver (xorg-x11-xserver) with the X11Libre (XLibre) Xserver, an actively maintained fork. Disclaimer The Change Owner does NOT share or endorse upstream's political views! Given that those can be found even in the upstream project-wide README.md, the Change Owner feels obliged to make this clarification.
  - throwaway7356 1y ago
    https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-x11libre-system-wide/156330/36 https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-x... Have fun with the Xlibre community. The fact that the proposer has to include such disclaimer also says a lot about the Xlibre upstream community.
    - em-bee 1y ago
      rather the fact that someone who rejects the ideology contained in the readme is willing to support that project anyways shows that they neither believe in a future for Xorg nor do they believe that wayland will fix the issues that keeps them from using it. as someone who is firmly in the wayland camp i believe that this indicates significant grief that people who join Xlibre despite its anti DEI stance have with wayland that wayland devs should take note and not just dismiss the entire Xlibre community as a bunch misguided individuals.

No, people flock to Xlibre because of Weigelt's political opinions. They are unhappy because Wayland is developed by "woke" people, thus the need to continue to use X11.

OCASMv2 1y ago

How do know? Did you ask everyone involved for their motivations?

jauntywundrkind 1y ago

My feel is that this is 100% dead on, that the agitators have found their mark to radicalize, anger, and make proper pests of folks who want to be tilting and mad. Politics lead here; anything for their anti-causes.

em-bee 1y ago
well here is the proof to the contrary: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/X11Libre#Disclaimer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/X11Libre#Disclaimer Summary Replace the X.Org X11 Xserver (xorg-x11-xserver) with the X11Libre (XLibre) Xserver, an actively maintained fork. Disclaimer The Change Owner does NOT share or endorse upstream's political views! Given that those can be found even in the upstream project-wide README.md, the Change Owner feels obliged to make this clarification.
- throwaway7356 1y ago
  https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-x11libre-system-wide/156330/36 https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-x... Have fun with the Xlibre community. The fact that the proposer has to include such disclaimer also says a lot about the Xlibre upstream community.
  - em-bee 1y ago
    rather the fact that someone who rejects the ideology contained in the readme is willing to support that project anyways shows that they neither believe in a future for Xorg nor do they believe that wayland will fix the issues that keeps them from using it. as someone who is firmly in the wayland camp i believe that this indicates significant grief that people who join Xlibre despite its anti DEI stance have with wayland that wayland devs should take note and not just dismiss the entire Xlibre community as a bunch misguided individuals.