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They don’t care about the regime, they only want it to be aligned with the US and Israel. The Saudi absolute monarchy regime (something that is way worst than t

They don’t care about the regime, they only want it to be aligned with the US and Israel. The Saudi absolute monarchy regime (something that is way worst than the Iranian one) that is directly coming from middle ages, doesn’t get the same journalistic treatment in the US. Women rights in Iran are lightyears ahead of what is happening in Saudi Arabia. But who cares? Talking about Iran regime change only is pure hypocrisy when your best friend in the region can kill anyone by just deciding it.

reissbaker 1y ago
Actually, Saudi Arabia doesn't beat woman to death for not wearing a hijab (although they're not great either). Saudi is ranked 56 on the Gender Inequality Index, whereas Iran is 113. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_Inequality_Index https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_Inequality_Index
- mahkeiro 1y ago
  No but talking badly of the royal family will get you executed: https://cpj.org/2025/06/saudi-arabia-executes-journalist-turki-al-jasser-on-treason-terrorism-charges/ https://cpj.org/2025/06/saudi-arabia-executes-journalist-tur...
  - reissbaker 1y ago
    You claimed "women's rights in Iran are lightyears ahead of Saudi Arabia." And Iran executes plenty of journalists too.
    - koevet 1y ago
      Saudi Arabia has killed and dismembered a journalist in their own embassy in Istambul, Jamal Khashoggi.
    - mahkeiro 1y ago
      3 years ago Saudi Arabia set into its law (on the international women’s day) that a male relative always have control on a woman. A few years ago only, women were allowed to drive but as of today they are very few female drivers. But that’s not the point, the point is the hypocrisy to point at a political regime because he his not aligned with your views while having as a best friend the worst absolute monarchy.
      - reissbaker 1y ago
        #56 vs #113. They're both bad, but one is worse, and famously murders women for showing their hair. And that's Iran.
        t-3 1y ago
        You can find many videos of people walking around cities in Iran - not only are plenty of women not covering their hair, there's plenty of dyed hair too. Dress is a bit more conservative than western countries, but not by much, and women are obviously free - and feel safe - to leave the house unescorted. Iran has liberalized a lot compared to the post-revolutionary period.
        reissbaker 1y ago
        Mahsa Amini was famously beaten to death by Iran's morality police in 2022 for the crime of not wearing a hijab. Even modern-day Iran is incredibly oppressive to women, and is currently ranked #113 on the Gender Inequality Index.
        mahkeiro 1y ago
        In Saudi Arabia they just disappear or are even executed in total secrecy. They even execute women that were raped… https://reprieve.org/uk/2023/01/31/saudi-arabia-and-the-death-penalty-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-rise-in-executions-under-mohammed-bin-salman/ https://reprieve.org/uk/2023/01/31/saudi-arabia-and-the-deat... And please have a look at your index, if there a broken one it is this one https://hdr.undp.org/data-center/thematic-composite-indices/gender-inequality-index#/indicies/GII https://hdr.undp.org/data-center/thematic-composite-indices/... In 2013 Saudi Arabia went from almost last to ahead of countries like Cuba… Cuba may not be a great country but female don’t need a perpetual male tutor to do anything.
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tbrownaw 1y ago
> They don’t care about the regime, they only want it to be aligned with the US and Israel. So they want to either change the regime or change the regime, and don't much care which one?

reissbaker 1y ago

Actually, Saudi Arabia doesn't beat woman to death for not wearing a hijab (although they're not great either). Saudi is ranked 56 on the Gender Inequality Index, whereas Iran is 113. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_Inequality_Index https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_Inequality_Index

mahkeiro 1y ago
No but talking badly of the royal family will get you executed: https://cpj.org/2025/06/saudi-arabia-executes-journalist-turki-al-jasser-on-treason-terrorism-charges/ https://cpj.org/2025/06/saudi-arabia-executes-journalist-tur...
- reissbaker 1y ago
  You claimed "women's rights in Iran are lightyears ahead of Saudi Arabia." And Iran executes plenty of journalists too.
  - koevet 1y ago
    Saudi Arabia has killed and dismembered a journalist in their own embassy in Istambul, Jamal Khashoggi.
  - mahkeiro 1y ago
    3 years ago Saudi Arabia set into its law (on the international women’s day) that a male relative always have control on a woman. A few years ago only, women were allowed to drive but as of today they are very few female drivers. But that’s not the point, the point is the hypocrisy to point at a political regime because he his not aligned with your views while having as a best friend the worst absolute monarchy.
    - reissbaker 1y ago
      #56 vs #113. They're both bad, but one is worse, and famously murders women for showing their hair. And that's Iran.
      - t-3 1y ago
        You can find many videos of people walking around cities in Iran - not only are plenty of women not covering their hair, there's plenty of dyed hair too. Dress is a bit more conservative than western countries, but not by much, and women are obviously free - and feel safe - to leave the house unescorted. Iran has liberalized a lot compared to the post-revolutionary period.
        reissbaker 1y ago
        Mahsa Amini was famously beaten to death by Iran's morality police in 2022 for the crime of not wearing a hijab. Even modern-day Iran is incredibly oppressive to women, and is currently ranked #113 on the Gender Inequality Index.
        mahkeiro 1y ago
        In Saudi Arabia they just disappear or are even executed in total secrecy. They even execute women that were raped… https://reprieve.org/uk/2023/01/31/saudi-arabia-and-the-death-penalty-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-rise-in-executions-under-mohammed-bin-salman/ https://reprieve.org/uk/2023/01/31/saudi-arabia-and-the-deat... And please have a look at your index, if there a broken one it is this one https://hdr.undp.org/data-center/thematic-composite-indices/gender-inequality-index#/indicies/GII https://hdr.undp.org/data-center/thematic-composite-indices/... In 2013 Saudi Arabia went from almost last to ahead of countries like Cuba… Cuba may not be a great country but female don’t need a perpetual male tutor to do anything.
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tbrownaw 1y ago

> They don’t care about the regime, they only want it to be aligned with the US and Israel. So they want to either change the regime or change the regime, and don't much care which one?