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If it's Ok for you to claim that your taste in movies has no deep roots beyond what's immediately accessible to your consciousness, it's also Ok for us to deriv

by rixed 1y ago

If it's Ok for you to claim that your taste in movies has no deep roots beyond what's immediately accessible to your consciousness, it's also Ok for us to derive from that claim that you are, indeed in this instance, incapable of critical examination. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Now, if what you wanted to say is that you believe that this domain is not worthy of critical examination, then there would be several difficulties still: - how to know what's worth of examination without examination? - How could such a culturally influential industry be not worthy of critical examination? - Aren't we naturally more resistant to examine what we suspect would yield unpleasant knowledge rather than what we suspect would be unworthy?

esperent 1y ago
> If it's Ok for you to claim that your taste in movies has no deep roots beyond what's immediately accessible to your consciousness That's not what I claimed. Of course there are deep roots. My point is that there are deep roots for everything in your and my subconscious, and yet only very limited hours in the day for analysing them. I'm fully capable of analyzing my taste in movies, as is virtually everyone. However, I choose to spend that time analyzing other things that have more personal meaning to me. The issue I have here is that there's a certain group of people that will take that choice of mine, and use it to affirm a nonsensical belief that they're somehow superior, or more capable of critical thought tbecause they like analyzing movies (or art, poetry, books, whatever). > how to know what's worth of examination without examination? Everything is worthy of examination, of course. However, I am but one normal, busy human with only a few hours in a day. I spend my limited time in the things that have meaning to me, and analyzing movies is not on the list. I don't look down on anyone for choosing to analyze movies, and thereby better understand themselves. I just ask that you also don't look down on my because I'd rather spend that time analyzing something with more personal meaning. Like physics, mathematics, culture, mental health, fitness, books that I've read, and lots more. But not movies.
- rixed 1y ago
  I have no doubt that "virtually everyone" think they know why they enjoy this or that movie, but I also believe that virtually everyone is wrong virtually all the times when it comes to explaining our own acts or opinions. Science, and especially social sciences, often give this impression of being looked down at. It's like, we lost being the center of the universe, we had to admit that we are just one species of ape, that we have unconscious thoughts, that some decisions can be predicted before we take them, that we can easily be manipulated in many ways, but at least can we not decide for ourself why we like some benign entertainment such as watching a movie or commenting on HN? :)

by rixed 1y ago

esperent 1y ago

> If it's Ok for you to claim that your taste in movies has no deep roots beyond what's immediately accessible to your consciousness That's not what I claimed. Of course there are deep roots. My point is that there are deep roots for everything in your and my subconscious, and yet only very limited hours in the day for analysing them. I'm fully capable of analyzing my taste in movies, as is virtually everyone. However, I choose to spend that time analyzing other things that have more personal meaning to me. The issue I have here is that there's a certain group of people that will take that choice of mine, and use it to affirm a nonsensical belief that they're somehow superior, or more capable of critical thought tbecause they like analyzing movies (or art, poetry, books, whatever). > how to know what's worth of examination without examination? Everything is worthy of examination, of course. However, I am but one normal, busy human with only a few hours in a day. I spend my limited time in the things that have meaning to me, and analyzing movies is not on the list. I don't look down on anyone for choosing to analyze movies, and thereby better understand themselves. I just ask that you also don't look down on my because I'd rather spend that time analyzing something with more personal meaning. Like physics, mathematics, culture, mental health, fitness, books that I've read, and lots more. But not movies.

rixed 1y ago
I have no doubt that "virtually everyone" think they know why they enjoy this or that movie, but I also believe that virtually everyone is wrong virtually all the times when it comes to explaining our own acts or opinions. Science, and especially social sciences, often give this impression of being looked down at. It's like, we lost being the center of the universe, we had to admit that we are just one species of ape, that we have unconscious thoughts, that some decisions can be predicted before we take them, that we can easily be manipulated in many ways, but at least can we not decide for ourself why we like some benign entertainment such as watching a movie or commenting on HN? :)