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We can very easily predict Trump dropping the ball again. No one has gone broke betting against the incompetence of him and his administration.

transcriptase 1y ago
“It’s over for Trump this time, he’s finished!” - You (2015,2016,2017,2018,2019,2020,2021,2022,2023,2024,2025)
- soraminazuki 1y ago
  Being incompetent and being popular are unfortunately not exclusionary. Or are you saying that elected officials doesn't make mistakes?
- cloverich 1y ago
  OP predicted Trump will mess up not that he'll lose an election. His electorate is largely supporting him via emotional response, hence his constant appeal to emotions, morality, demonization, etc - it works very well. The title of the book on my manipulated mothers shelf is "Democrats hate America" not "Iranian nuclear enrichment policy” — because this isn’t about policy, it’s about identity. Trump’s rhetoric doesn’t have to withstand scrutiny; it just has to resonate. And it resonates because it offers a simple moral binary: good vs. evil, us vs. them. That’s why failures, scandals, or even authoritarian gestures don’t shake his base — they’re not evaluating him on outcomes, but on whether he reflects their emotional reality. The real danger isn’t just that he might “mess up,” but that the political incentives now reward this kind of performative grievance over competence.
- const_cast 1y ago
  Stupid people being back by other people doesn't mean they aren't stupid. It actually means the contrary - there's more stupid people than we previously thought... I'm being a bit mean I suppose, it's not actually stupidity. It's naivety and fierce propaganda campaigns. Everyone longs for a simpler time and the domestic economic struggles of the US are plain.
- Forgeties79 1y ago
  No? I said he constantly does stupid things. I said nothing about this being the end for him. I’m not sure how you got that from my comment. I mean look at how he’s handled the “ceasefire” so far. He’s an embarrassment and unbelievably incompetent. He’s a petulant child.
anon84873628 1y ago
Was this dropping the ball? There seems to be a lot of debate about whether it was ultimately right or wrong long term. In any case, it certainly doesn't weigh towards "not belligerent". I'm no Trump supporter or apologist, I just don't see how one can claim that this action changes the calculus for Russia and China. Maybe if he really had fully abandoned Ukraine then yes. But he's been happy to attack Yemen and Iran (and possibly Greenland for that matter) so why would China think they are immune? I suspect he also harbors more racism towards China than Russia.
- Forgeties79 1y ago
  I think looking at the news since we first started this conversation pretty clearly explains that this has been nothing short of a cluster as usual. As usual he is contradicting his own intelligence apparatus saying the mission was a failure - he and his administration keep lying to us all making sure you always use the word “obliterated“ to sound big and strong. Even Israel says they didn't do the damage Trump is claiming.

transcriptase 1y ago

“It’s over for Trump this time, he’s finished!” - You (2015,2016,2017,2018,2019,2020,2021,2022,2023,2024,2025)

soraminazuki 1y ago
Being incompetent and being popular are unfortunately not exclusionary. Or are you saying that elected officials doesn't make mistakes?
cloverich 1y ago
OP predicted Trump will mess up not that he'll lose an election. His electorate is largely supporting him via emotional response, hence his constant appeal to emotions, morality, demonization, etc - it works very well. The title of the book on my manipulated mothers shelf is "Democrats hate America" not "Iranian nuclear enrichment policy” — because this isn’t about policy, it’s about identity. Trump’s rhetoric doesn’t have to withstand scrutiny; it just has to resonate. And it resonates because it offers a simple moral binary: good vs. evil, us vs. them. That’s why failures, scandals, or even authoritarian gestures don’t shake his base — they’re not evaluating him on outcomes, but on whether he reflects their emotional reality. The real danger isn’t just that he might “mess up,” but that the political incentives now reward this kind of performative grievance over competence.
const_cast 1y ago
Stupid people being back by other people doesn't mean they aren't stupid. It actually means the contrary - there's more stupid people than we previously thought... I'm being a bit mean I suppose, it's not actually stupidity. It's naivety and fierce propaganda campaigns. Everyone longs for a simpler time and the domestic economic struggles of the US are plain.
Forgeties79 1y ago
No? I said he constantly does stupid things. I said nothing about this being the end for him. I’m not sure how you got that from my comment. I mean look at how he’s handled the “ceasefire” so far. He’s an embarrassment and unbelievably incompetent. He’s a petulant child.

anon84873628 1y ago

Was this dropping the ball? There seems to be a lot of debate about whether it was ultimately right or wrong long term. In any case, it certainly doesn't weigh towards "not belligerent". I'm no Trump supporter or apologist, I just don't see how one can claim that this action changes the calculus for Russia and China. Maybe if he really had fully abandoned Ukraine then yes. But he's been happy to attack Yemen and Iran (and possibly Greenland for that matter) so why would China think they are immune? I suspect he also harbors more racism towards China than Russia.

Forgeties79 1y ago
I think looking at the news since we first started this conversation pretty clearly explains that this has been nothing short of a cluster as usual. As usual he is contradicting his own intelligence apparatus saying the mission was a failure - he and his administration keep lying to us all making sure you always use the word “obliterated“ to sound big and strong. Even Israel says they didn't do the damage Trump is claiming.