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It's almost impossible to imagine Netanyahu acting so emboldened under any previous US president. And it's hard to deny that Trump now looks extremely diminishe

It's almost impossible to imagine Netanyahu acting so emboldened under any previous US president. And it's hard to deny that Trump now looks extremely diminished on the world stage, between his leading from behind with Israel over both Gaza and Iran and his comprehensive failure to have any impact on the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

I-M-S 1y ago
> It's almost impossible to imagine Netanyahu acting so emboldened under any previous US president Gaza happened under Biden's watch, and continued under Trump.
- protocolture 1y ago
  Yeah but Netanyahu tried the same shit regarding Iran with the last few presidents, including the previous incarnation of Trump who had better advisers. This is the first time the lie has worked to this extent.
  - booleandilemma 1y ago
    Worked in what way? Preventing Iran (the country whose motto seems to be "Death to America") from making a nuclear bomb?
    - protocolture 1y ago
      Netanyahu has warned that Iran is minutes away from the bomb for the last 30 years. Trumps own intelligence community was telling us that Iran is incapable of producing a bomb just a week or so ago. Death to America is a great motto, but that's all it really is, they sadly lack the capability to follow through with it. With or without these latest strikes.
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- frollogaston 1y ago
  Biden probably takes second place, if not sharing first place with Trump. He's still top of this list at least, which interestingly enough Trump isn't on: https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind...
ImJamal 1y ago
Israel (not under Netanyahu) stole nuclear secrets from the US and killed a bunch of sailors, damaging a Navy ship in the process. They have always been emboldened.
- mysterEFrank 1y ago
  This needs a citation. Israel developed their nukes 50 years ago with the assistance of Jewish nuclear physicists from around the world and french materials. They didn't need to steal nuclear secrets.
  - CapricornNoble 1y ago
    I recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNI7_u99rec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNI7_u99rec They didn't steal "secrets", but they almost certainly were covertly supplied with US nuclear material with the tacit approval of the CIA. As for the claim about killing US sailors, here's GDF's vid on the attack against the USS Liberty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfABflKvFzk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfABflKvFzk
    - ImJamal 1y ago
      Thanks for the correction. I misremembered secrets vs materials. Regardless, it is not a good look for them.
JeremyNT 1y ago
While Trump is a complete pushover, Biden was also well in pocket. Maybe Harris wouldn't have gone this far, but the democrats were happy to carry water for Israel for a long time. I'd argue their unflinching support was also a key to priming the American public for this moment. Fully and unquestioningly supporting whatever Israel does is practically a requirement for all American politicians.
- le-mark 1y ago
  > While Trump is a complete pushover, Biden was also well in pocket. There no evidence to support that. US policy has been to fully support Isreal, full stop. At least under Biden there was talk of suspending arms supplies due to Gaza, Trump just wants a shot at that beach front real estate. Not comparable at all.
mensetmanusman 1y ago
Do you have a world stage palantir?

I-M-S 1y ago

> It's almost impossible to imagine Netanyahu acting so emboldened under any previous US president Gaza happened under Biden's watch, and continued under Trump.

protocolture 1y ago
Yeah but Netanyahu tried the same shit regarding Iran with the last few presidents, including the previous incarnation of Trump who had better advisers. This is the first time the lie has worked to this extent.
- booleandilemma 1y ago
  Worked in what way? Preventing Iran (the country whose motto seems to be "Death to America") from making a nuclear bomb?
  - protocolture 1y ago
    Netanyahu has warned that Iran is minutes away from the bomb for the last 30 years. Trumps own intelligence community was telling us that Iran is incapable of producing a bomb just a week or so ago. Death to America is a great motto, but that's all it really is, they sadly lack the capability to follow through with it. With or without these latest strikes.
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frollogaston 1y ago
Biden probably takes second place, if not sharing first place with Trump. He's still top of this list at least, which interestingly enough Trump isn't on: https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind...

ImJamal 1y ago

Israel (not under Netanyahu) stole nuclear secrets from the US and killed a bunch of sailors, damaging a Navy ship in the process. They have always been emboldened.

mysterEFrank 1y ago
This needs a citation. Israel developed their nukes 50 years ago with the assistance of Jewish nuclear physicists from around the world and french materials. They didn't need to steal nuclear secrets.
- CapricornNoble 1y ago
  I recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNI7_u99rec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNI7_u99rec They didn't steal "secrets", but they almost certainly were covertly supplied with US nuclear material with the tacit approval of the CIA. As for the claim about killing US sailors, here's GDF's vid on the attack against the USS Liberty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfABflKvFzk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfABflKvFzk
  - ImJamal 1y ago
    Thanks for the correction. I misremembered secrets vs materials. Regardless, it is not a good look for them.

JeremyNT 1y ago

While Trump is a complete pushover, Biden was also well in pocket. Maybe Harris wouldn't have gone this far, but the democrats were happy to carry water for Israel for a long time. I'd argue their unflinching support was also a key to priming the American public for this moment. Fully and unquestioningly supporting whatever Israel does is practically a requirement for all American politicians.

le-mark 1y ago
> While Trump is a complete pushover, Biden was also well in pocket. There no evidence to support that. US policy has been to fully support Isreal, full stop. At least under Biden there was talk of suspending arms supplies due to Gaza, Trump just wants a shot at that beach front real estate. Not comparable at all.

mensetmanusman 1y ago

Do you have a world stage palantir?