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Is there an end to this? The US actually ends Iran's nuclear program, they quit trying and obey ... because we bombed them? Most of the recent middle east his
by duxup 1y ago
Is there an end to this?
The US actually ends Iran's nuclear program, they quit trying and obey ... because we bombed them?
Most of the recent middle east history doesn't seem to ever end as much as just go through a continuous cycle of violence creating more of what the folks condoning violence claim they're preventing.
- reaperducer 1y agoJust yesterday I was wondering when the last time was that the Middle East had a period of peace. I know it hasn't been in my lifetime.
- greenavocado 1y agoIt was getting pretty quiet leading up to the moment Assad was deposed.
- jjk166 1y agoAssad was deposed more than a year after the start of the current Israel/Gaza flare up, which has included conflict in Lebanon and Yemen. He was also deposed nearly 14 years into the Syrian Civil War.
- jordanb 1y agoNot since the Ottomans picked the wrong side in WWI.
- vdupras 1y agoOne question I have on my mind is: what side will they pick in WWIII?
- pjc50 1y agoShortly before the assassination of Rabin?
- twelve40 1y agofwiw they do seem to have wiped out a bunch of opponents recently, some weakened to the point of giving up, others wiped out entirely. ever since the so-called "arab spring" the trend has been pretty steady.
- siltcakes 1y agoWhat do you think all of the children of parents murdered by Israel will do? There will be much stronger resistance in the future.
- twelve40 1y agoI wonder that too, with Gaza with the current approach the only endgame seems to be to either just kill everyone or to displace every single person somewhere else, but if those children continue to have living conditions of animals, their resistance will be of no consequence. Sorry if it sounds harsh, but i think this is not inaccurate unfortunately.
- dudefeliciano 1y agopreventive genocide
- greenavocado 1y agoConsidering the fact that many US congressmen openly fly the flag of Israel in and around their congressional offices and openly proclaim absolute commitment to this foreign entity, there is no end in sight to the direct interference in US politics and subsequent military intervention and aid supporting these people while our country is sucked dry and our soldiers are ordered to die fighting in their wars.
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- jordanb 1y agoIran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program. That was the assessment of Trump's own government back in March, according to testimony of his national security advisor under oath before congress. We knew about these sites because they have been under IAEA supervision for many years. The smart thing for Iran to do at this point is do what Israel did: not submit to any arms control and develop their own weapons in secret. Clearly this is the only way to be safe when people in Tel Aviv and Washington are openly discussing the "Libya solution."
- dralley 1y agoThis is grammar-hacking and misleading. According to the IAEA, Iran has around 400kg of 60% enriched Uranium. Nobody disputes this. There is zero reason to ever enrich beyond around 5% for civilian purposes, and zero reason to ever enrich beyond around 20% for non-bomb purposes (naval ship reactors typically use higher enrichment to avoid refueling and increase power density). That's enough Uranium to build around 10 bombs if fully enriched. They've done work on designing the actual bomb itself, too, and there's very little dispute about that either. They have a nuclear weapons program. What Iran hasn't done, or there's no evidence of them having done, is actually start putting one together. But many of the prerequisites to do so are in place, though people dispute exactly how long it would take them to pull it off once they decided to do so.
- TiredOfLife 1y agoThey also have the delivery mechanism. A huge ballistic missile program.
- throwworhtthrow 1y agoGaining the knowledge to build a nuclear weapon is not the same thing as assembling one. Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence, March 2025: "the IC continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003. The IC continues to monitor closely if Tehran decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program." [1] Please explain how "Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program" is grammar hacking the above quote. [1] https://youtu.be/nOhOqjx1y18?t=701 https://youtu.be/nOhOqjx1y18?t=701
- cryptozeus 1y agoIraq completely shut down post war so yeh its possible
- baobun 1y agoIt's a completely different story. The roots and branches of Iran and its current leadership go deeper and wider on a different level. Saddam had nothing in comparison. Hamas would be a cakewalk in comparison and that's apparently still going. Hard to see this being achievable over a just a couple of years if at all.
- vFunct 1y agoIraq wasn't a populist movement. Iran is.
- jjk166 1y agoWe fought a war against Iraq, conducted no fly zone operations over them for 12 years, fought another war, occupied them for 9 years, left and came back less than 3 years later for another 7 year long military operation against the terrorist group that filled the power vacuum. We still have about 2500 troops stationed in Iraq.
- enlightenedfool 1y agoAll that is supported by the American public buying defense stocks. Just new war strategies when party in power changes.
- FuckButtons 1y agoWe still have 55k in Japan and 24k in Korea, what exactly is your point? 2500 troops for a military the size of the US is a rounding error.
- jjk166 1y agoThank you for the additional examples of things not simply shutting down after a quick conflict. Lasting peace requires decades of military involvement. That is my point.
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