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They're not going to escalate. They're already getting their ass handed to them by Israel and the last thing they want is to throw down with their other enemie
by fallingknife 1y ago
They're not going to escalate. They're already getting their ass handed to them by Israel and the last thing they want is to throw down with their other enemies in the region right now. You are correct that there will be no ground invasion, so there is no existential threat to the government. This means they have no incentive to do something stupid that will make anyone change their mind on that invasion.
- handfuloflight 1y ago> so there is no existential threat to the government. Do you think sitting by and doing nothing will not pose an existential threat to the government by way of constituent discontent?
- TeeMassive 1y agoAnd now every regime who feared getting regime-changed will have an interest of developing the bomb. Gaddafi effect is real.
- TeeMassive 1y agoIt's a country of 100M people. They're not just gonna be have their "ass handed to them", just like it didn't happen in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq1, Iraq2, Yemen and Afghanistan. Countries do adapt to bombings, especially when there's a superpower nearby. Also if they "were just about to have the bomb" then they could develop it and use it after. So there is the conflicting position that they are both insane to use it and but both sane to not escalate the conflict. This is where most pro-war arguments fail the basic logic test in the nuclear bomb era.
- abletonlive 1y ago"just like it didn't happen in korea, vietnam, iraq1, iraq2, yemen and afghanistan." that's a fancy retelling of history you got there. MILLIONs died in those wars and less than 100K US troops died. Out of those wars, iraq 1 led to iraq defeat and withdrawal from kuwait. iraq 2 had saddam dragged through the streets and a regime change within 3 weeks, yemen was counterterrorism - there's no regime to topple, in afghanistan the taliban regime was removed for 20 years and only once the troops were withdrawn were they able to crawl back. the current Iranian regime is over.
- TeeMassive 1y agoKIAs ratio is not what determine a war's success
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y agoPossibly, but the cost that regime being over is likely similar to that US paid with war in Afghanistan and Iraq, which, and I am being very, very charitable, was too much blood for too little gain.
- amanaplanacanal 1y agoSo do you think the US is going to put the boots on the ground to make that happen? Even Trump isn't that stupid. Or maybe he is. I guess we'll see.
- Cyph0n 1y agoForcing Iran into submission is not going be as easy as it was in Iraq. One of the key reasons behind why Iraq fell so quickly is that Saddam made all the wrong moves leading up the invasion. By that point, he had alienated every single potential ally (including Iran) - and virtually all states in the region were supportive of the invasion, regardless of their positions in public. Not to mention that the invasion of Iraq was ultimately a failure anyways..
- abletonlive 1y ago> By that point, he had alienated every single potential ally (including Iran) It's so funny that you can't see the parallels
- Cyph0n 1y agoIran has been escalating reasonably, and is clearly acting as a sovereign state should. You can project all you want, but Saddam was playing another ballgame. Unfortunately, international law means nothing these days, so it might have been a mistake to not establish deterrence sooner. Regardless, Iran is not going to be as easy to topple as some people might think.
- yonisto 1y agoThis is a fanatic regime. I will have its people eating grass before giving up on anything.