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When I look at Russia invading Ukraine, and I see how Israel is behaving, and I listen to the American president talking about annexing my country, I can see wh

When I look at Russia invading Ukraine, and I see how Israel is behaving, and I listen to the American president talking about annexing my country, I can see why a country might believe it needs nuclear weapons. Whether this is good or bad is something people can discuss. But I think it’s fleetingly difficult for me to see any sort of righteous high ground these days.

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bagels 1y ago
With Trump in office, everybody should be seeking them out, Canada included.
- Waterluvian 1y ago
  I'm not sure what wise national defense policy would be. But I can't argue with anyone who might reach that conclusion.
- mensetmanusman 1y ago
  If they don’t understand math and risk, they should. The US nearly nuked itself multiple times during development and learning. It will happen when everyone else races to build them.
  - Waterluvian 1y ago
    Yes, I hear nukes are dangerous.
  - hajile 1y ago
    That was when the research wasn't stable. Any nuclear scientist today knows WAY more about the do's and don'ts of creating nukes than we did when muddling through the Manhattan project. Making basic uranium nukes is time consuming, but nothing too special. The hard part (by far) is making the missiles to launch those nukes and hit the target. That part is so hard that we've continually failed to replace the Minuteman III which was designed before we even landed on the moon.
    - mensetmanusman 1y ago
      I will trust humanity on this view.
ivape 1y ago
I mean if Russia can just walk into Ukraine, why can't Israel terrorize Iran from the sky. Why can't China just waltz into Taiwan? The thing about Trump's isolationism is that it's actually a passive aggressive position. Imagine you know which kids in your classroom are likely to fight and you take a policy of "I won't stop it if it happens", that's basically telling some of the kids "go ahead", so how is this isolationist? Now, literally joining in on the fight when the kids pop off, that is uniquely Trumpian.
- komali2 1y ago
  In the case of Taiwan, because there's not really a path to victory from straight up invasion that accomplishes anything really meaningful, unless Xi is down for his legacy to be 5 million deaths and the sudden burden of tens of millions of infrastructureless refugees that are apparently full throated PRC citizens now. The PRC's only realistic hope is a soft power takeover which it seems mildly competent at progressing on. About to have a serious setback with the KMT recalls though.
  - nebula8804 1y ago
    I can only see China invading after SMIC has matched the capabilities of TSMC. China wouldn't need TSMC anymore and if the rest of the world' tech sectors collapse then sucks for them but not China.
    - hajile 1y ago
      If China ever succeeds in outmatching TSMC in both process and wafer output, Taiwan would have already lost as the big reason for defending them disappears.
_zagj 1y ago
> American president talking about annexing my country You country can't even be bothered to meet its 2% NATO obligation, and now you're talking about pursuing a nuclear weapons program, and not to deter Russia, but to threaten the US? Canada and Iran both show how dangerous having state-run media is.
- Fraterkes 1y ago
  Check your carbon-monoxide detectors
- twixfel 1y ago
  Jesus what nonsense. Russia isn't threatening to annex Canada, only the USA is. I don't understand this retarded American exceptionalism: we can threaten to annex you but you're not allowed to react or to care. I can't believe I used to look up to your country. P.S. Fuck Russia too; we need to support Ukraine more.
  - _zagj 1y ago
    > Jesus what nonsense. Russia isn't threatening to annex Canada Russia would simply take as much of Canada's arctic as it liked, right now, with or without Canada having nukes, if it weren't for the United States.
    - twixfel 1y ago
      OK, but it isn't threatening to do. America is. You see the difference?

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bagels 1y ago

With Trump in office, everybody should be seeking them out, Canada included.

Waterluvian 1y ago
I'm not sure what wise national defense policy would be. But I can't argue with anyone who might reach that conclusion.
mensetmanusman 1y ago
If they don’t understand math and risk, they should. The US nearly nuked itself multiple times during development and learning. It will happen when everyone else races to build them.
- Waterluvian 1y ago
  Yes, I hear nukes are dangerous.
- hajile 1y ago
  That was when the research wasn't stable. Any nuclear scientist today knows WAY more about the do's and don'ts of creating nukes than we did when muddling through the Manhattan project. Making basic uranium nukes is time consuming, but nothing too special. The hard part (by far) is making the missiles to launch those nukes and hit the target. That part is so hard that we've continually failed to replace the Minuteman III which was designed before we even landed on the moon.
  - mensetmanusman 1y ago
    I will trust humanity on this view.

ivape 1y ago

I mean if Russia can just walk into Ukraine, why can't Israel terrorize Iran from the sky. Why can't China just waltz into Taiwan? The thing about Trump's isolationism is that it's actually a passive aggressive position. Imagine you know which kids in your classroom are likely to fight and you take a policy of "I won't stop it if it happens", that's basically telling some of the kids "go ahead", so how is this isolationist? Now, literally joining in on the fight when the kids pop off, that is uniquely Trumpian.

komali2 1y ago
In the case of Taiwan, because there's not really a path to victory from straight up invasion that accomplishes anything really meaningful, unless Xi is down for his legacy to be 5 million deaths and the sudden burden of tens of millions of infrastructureless refugees that are apparently full throated PRC citizens now. The PRC's only realistic hope is a soft power takeover which it seems mildly competent at progressing on. About to have a serious setback with the KMT recalls though.
- nebula8804 1y ago
  I can only see China invading after SMIC has matched the capabilities of TSMC. China wouldn't need TSMC anymore and if the rest of the world' tech sectors collapse then sucks for them but not China.
  - hajile 1y ago
    If China ever succeeds in outmatching TSMC in both process and wafer output, Taiwan would have already lost as the big reason for defending them disappears.

_zagj 1y ago

> American president talking about annexing my country You country can't even be bothered to meet its 2% NATO obligation, and now you're talking about pursuing a nuclear weapons program, and not to deter Russia, but to threaten the US? Canada and Iran both show how dangerous having state-run media is.

Fraterkes 1y ago
Check your carbon-monoxide detectors
twixfel 1y ago
Jesus what nonsense. Russia isn't threatening to annex Canada, only the USA is. I don't understand this retarded American exceptionalism: we can threaten to annex you but you're not allowed to react or to care. I can't believe I used to look up to your country. P.S. Fuck Russia too; we need to support Ukraine more.
- _zagj 1y ago
  > Jesus what nonsense. Russia isn't threatening to annex Canada Russia would simply take as much of Canada's arctic as it liked, right now, with or without Canada having nukes, if it weren't for the United States.
  - twixfel 1y ago
    OK, but it isn't threatening to do. America is. You see the difference?