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My impression was that this wasn’t how the US worked?

colechristensen 1y ago
It wasn't supposed to be how it worked but our legislature is basically dysfunctional and either vaguely gave away or just won't protect its own power.
epgui 1y ago
You’re right; it’s how the US malfunctions.
handfuloflight 1y ago
Congress does not have a spine.
gxs 1y ago
This administration has been great at finding bugs in the code where the devs refuse to do shit That said this particular bug for starting wars without congress has been exploited for decades with no patches in site
- disqard 1y ago
  ...and don't forget Gödel's Loophole (from Wikipedia): > Gödel's Loophole is a supposed "inner contradiction" in the Constitution of the United States which Austrian-American logician, mathematician, and analytic philosopher Kurt Gödel postulated in 1947. The loophole would permit America's republican structure to be legally turned into a dictatorship.
PopePompus 1y ago
Congress has been happily shedding its powers for decades. They don't want to be held responsible if a war turns out badly, so they haven't declared a war since 1945, I believe.
- _kst_ 1y ago
  The last US declaration of war was in 1942, against Hungary, Bulgaria, and Romania (allies of Nazi Germany).
- mulmen 1y ago
  WWII ended in 1945. The last time the US officially declared war was June 4, 1942. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_Unit...
sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago
The last formal declaration of war by the US was during World War 2. We got very good at gray area nonsense. The Korean War is not a war, it's a conflict. The Vietnam War is not a war, it's an engagement. We have police actions, "peacekeeping" operations, and a hundred other things...but not "wars". We have the "global war on terror" and the accompanying Authorization for the Use of Military Force, created in the wake of 9/11 and still in effect today. Congressional approval of military action is fundamentally dead.
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Freedom2 1y ago
Generally no, but if you gaslight yourself into thinking you're the greatest democracy in the world with no equal and you need no patches or bugfixes, you can achieve a lot without any real checks or balances.

It wasn't supposed to be how it worked but our legislature is basically dysfunctional and either vaguely gave away or just won't protect its own power.

epgui 1y ago

You’re right; it’s how the US malfunctions.

handfuloflight 1y ago

Congress does not have a spine.

gxs 1y ago

This administration has been great at finding bugs in the code where the devs refuse to do shit That said this particular bug for starting wars without congress has been exploited for decades with no patches in site

disqard 1y ago
...and don't forget Gödel's Loophole (from Wikipedia): > Gödel's Loophole is a supposed "inner contradiction" in the Constitution of the United States which Austrian-American logician, mathematician, and analytic philosopher Kurt Gödel postulated in 1947. The loophole would permit America's republican structure to be legally turned into a dictatorship.

PopePompus 1y ago

Congress has been happily shedding its powers for decades. They don't want to be held responsible if a war turns out badly, so they haven't declared a war since 1945, I believe.

_kst_ 1y ago
The last US declaration of war was in 1942, against Hungary, Bulgaria, and Romania (allies of Nazi Germany).
mulmen 1y ago
WWII ended in 1945. The last time the US officially declared war was June 4, 1942. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_Unit...

sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago

The last formal declaration of war by the US was during World War 2. We got very good at gray area nonsense. The Korean War is not a war, it's a conflict. The Vietnam War is not a war, it's an engagement. We have police actions, "peacekeeping" operations, and a hundred other things...but not "wars". We have the "global war on terror" and the accompanying Authorization for the Use of Military Force, created in the wake of 9/11 and still in effect today. Congressional approval of military action is fundamentally dead.

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Freedom2 1y ago

Generally no, but if you gaslight yourself into thinking you're the greatest democracy in the world with no equal and you need no patches or bugfixes, you can achieve a lot without any real checks or balances.