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It is weird, this is their main website: https://hypr.land/ https://hypr.land/ Which has a demo. This website seems to only be for the account / payments.

by kjuulh 1y ago

tartakovsky 1y ago
This landing page also fails to properly describe anything I understand.
- homebrewer 1y ago
  It's sway with eye-candy. (Or, if you don't know about sway, the Wayland version of i3 — also with eye-candy). If you're still not sure, you're simply not the target audience, these things almost always require further learning and customization, so some level of gate-keeping from the start is helpful.
  - sheepscreek 1y ago
    Yep this - you’re not the target audience. It’s a UI desktop layer for Linux, made for the enthusiast. But also, OP posted a link that is not mobile friendly (at least on safari) and doesn’t say much about what this is. The main page does a fine job though (for those would care I guess).
- dartharva 1y ago
  Then that's honestly not on them.
Waterluvian 1y ago
There’s got to be a term for this given how I see it daily: when experts are so hyper focused that they’re not even aware they might have to at least indicate what a compositor even is. I think a common response is that if you don’t know, you’re not the audience anyways. But that lops off your customer funnel and limits the general awareness of your product. You want to bring everyone one step closer to your product from wherever they are.
- Akronymus 1y ago
  average familiarity [1] comes to mind. 1 https://xkcd.com/2501/ https://xkcd.com/2501/
  - Waterluvian 1y ago
    That’s perfect.
- Aurornis 1y ago
  In the case of niche, power user focused products like this I think it’s actually reasonable to assume the target audience should know what a compositor is. For projects like this that come with some assembly required, having a light filter on your funnel can actually be beneficial. Cast too wide of a net and you collect a lot of people who aren’t qualified to use the product but expect a lot of support anyway.
bowsamic 1y ago
It looks really horrible
yencabulator 1y ago
Only if you already know what "compositor" means in this context. > Modern compositor with the looks > Hyprland provides the latest Wayland features, dynamic tiling, all the eyecandy, powerful plugins and much more, while still being lightweight and responsive
- const_cast 1y ago
  If you're in the market for a Wayland compositor you should know what compositor means. If you're not in the market for a Wayland compositor then I can't imagine you'd ever need to know anything about hyprland.
  - yencabulator 1y ago
    Imagine if you will a site where links are shared amongst a very tech-heavy audience. I for one think it's reasonable for the average HN reader to understand the sites linked to. "If you don't understand it, you don't belong" is a crap attitude. They wanted to learn, if they didn't they wouldn't be asking what it means. What happened to good writing?
    - const_cast 1y ago
      It's not about being tech-heavy, it's about specifically running a Linux desktop on a distribution where you're running a very modern software stack, and you're not using a bundled desktop, so you're in the market for a compositor built for Wayland. That's just a very specific usecase. You can be extremely tech-heavy but if you run Windows then this wouldn't matter to you. I'm a very tech-heavy guy, and no, I don't understand everything linked on HN because it's just outside of my scope. Anything with Mac OS? Couldn't tell you.
      - yencabulator 1y ago
        That's my point. If given a link to a random article about macOS details, I expect to be able to identify it as such, and not just be completely baffled. As a macOS user looking at the Hyprland page, you won't even know if it's meant for macOS, Windows, Linux, Android -- even the idea that it's software is only by implication.

It is weird, this is their main website: https://hypr.land/ https://hypr.land/ Which has a demo. This website seems to only be for the account / payments.

by kjuulh 1y ago

It is weird, this is their main website: https://hypr.land/ https://hypr.land/ Which has a demo. This website seems to only be for the account / payments.

tartakovsky 1y ago

This landing page also fails to properly describe anything I understand.

homebrewer 1y ago
It's sway with eye-candy. (Or, if you don't know about sway, the Wayland version of i3 — also with eye-candy). If you're still not sure, you're simply not the target audience, these things almost always require further learning and customization, so some level of gate-keeping from the start is helpful.
- sheepscreek 1y ago
  Yep this - you’re not the target audience. It’s a UI desktop layer for Linux, made for the enthusiast. But also, OP posted a link that is not mobile friendly (at least on safari) and doesn’t say much about what this is. The main page does a fine job though (for those would care I guess).
dartharva 1y ago
Then that's honestly not on them.

Waterluvian 1y ago

There’s got to be a term for this given how I see it daily: when experts are so hyper focused that they’re not even aware they might have to at least indicate what a compositor even is. I think a common response is that if you don’t know, you’re not the audience anyways. But that lops off your customer funnel and limits the general awareness of your product. You want to bring everyone one step closer to your product from wherever they are.

Akronymus 1y ago
average familiarity [1] comes to mind. 1 https://xkcd.com/2501/ https://xkcd.com/2501/
- Waterluvian 1y ago
  That’s perfect.
Aurornis 1y ago
In the case of niche, power user focused products like this I think it’s actually reasonable to assume the target audience should know what a compositor is. For projects like this that come with some assembly required, having a light filter on your funnel can actually be beneficial. Cast too wide of a net and you collect a lot of people who aren’t qualified to use the product but expect a lot of support anyway.

bowsamic 1y ago

It looks really horrible

yencabulator 1y ago

Only if you already know what "compositor" means in this context. > Modern compositor with the looks > Hyprland provides the latest Wayland features, dynamic tiling, all the eyecandy, powerful plugins and much more, while still being lightweight and responsive

const_cast 1y ago
If you're in the market for a Wayland compositor you should know what compositor means. If you're not in the market for a Wayland compositor then I can't imagine you'd ever need to know anything about hyprland.
- yencabulator 1y ago
  Imagine if you will a site where links are shared amongst a very tech-heavy audience. I for one think it's reasonable for the average HN reader to understand the sites linked to. "If you don't understand it, you don't belong" is a crap attitude. They wanted to learn, if they didn't they wouldn't be asking what it means. What happened to good writing?
  - const_cast 1y ago
    It's not about being tech-heavy, it's about specifically running a Linux desktop on a distribution where you're running a very modern software stack, and you're not using a bundled desktop, so you're in the market for a compositor built for Wayland. That's just a very specific usecase. You can be extremely tech-heavy but if you run Windows then this wouldn't matter to you. I'm a very tech-heavy guy, and no, I don't understand everything linked on HN because it's just outside of my scope. Anything with Mac OS? Couldn't tell you.
    - yencabulator 1y ago
      That's my point. If given a link to a random article about macOS details, I expect to be able to identify it as such, and not just be completely baffled. As a macOS user looking at the Hyprland page, you won't even know if it's meant for macOS, Windows, Linux, Android -- even the idea that it's software is only by implication.