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Well I certainly hope we can clearcut a few million acres and get some new fossil fueled datacenters up and running, my Copilot has been writing shitty code la

by zzzeek 1y ago

Well I certainly hope we can clearcut a few million acres and get some new fossil fueled datacenters up and running, my Copilot has been writing shitty code lately

canyp 1y ago
You're gonna need a lot of water too. Stop watering your goddamn plants, max twice a week.
- nixgeek 1y ago
  Well, your obvious choices for datacenter cooling are in some climates evaporative /or/ using a heck of a lot more energy and a closed loop system. Pick your “problem”. Water usage can also be optimized and is becoming part of the sustainability conversation at most of the hyperscalers with multi-gigawatt energy footprints: https://sustainability.aboutamazon.com/natural-resources/water https://sustainability.aboutamazon.com/natural-resources/wat...
cvoss 1y ago
The proposed law does not permit the land to be sold for this purpose.
- nixgeek 1y ago
  It only enforces a restrictive covenant for 10 years. Buy land in 2026, build a few homes, repurpose to a datacenter campus in 2036. Looks like that would be entirely legal from reading the bill. If they were concerned about future redevelopment they should have put a 50-100 year restrictive covenant in the bill, not only 10 years.
- zzzeek 1y ago
  the "law", OK well here's "law", TikTok was supposed to be banned from the US about six months ago and SCOTUS even upheld it. Arrests are supposed to be made with agents that identify themselves and even if it's a nice day out read those crusty old "miranda rights" - we now watch videos all day long of masked, unidentified men jumping out of cars with no license plates and disappearing US citizens. Or tackling US Senators to the ground and detaining them for verbally interrupting a federal employee who reports to the Senate for oversight. You know, normal stuff. None of these "laws" seem to matter at all so it will be quite trivial to make a datacenter get written off as a nature center or whatever this "law" permits

by zzzeek 1y ago

Well I certainly hope we can clearcut a few million acres and get some new fossil fueled datacenters up and running, my Copilot has been writing shitty code lately

canyp 1y ago

You're gonna need a lot of water too. Stop watering your goddamn plants, max twice a week.

nixgeek 1y ago
Well, your obvious choices for datacenter cooling are in some climates evaporative /or/ using a heck of a lot more energy and a closed loop system. Pick your “problem”. Water usage can also be optimized and is becoming part of the sustainability conversation at most of the hyperscalers with multi-gigawatt energy footprints: https://sustainability.aboutamazon.com/natural-resources/water https://sustainability.aboutamazon.com/natural-resources/wat...

cvoss 1y ago

The proposed law does not permit the land to be sold for this purpose.

nixgeek 1y ago
It only enforces a restrictive covenant for 10 years. Buy land in 2026, build a few homes, repurpose to a datacenter campus in 2036. Looks like that would be entirely legal from reading the bill. If they were concerned about future redevelopment they should have put a 50-100 year restrictive covenant in the bill, not only 10 years.
zzzeek 1y ago
the "law", OK well here's "law", TikTok was supposed to be banned from the US about six months ago and SCOTUS even upheld it. Arrests are supposed to be made with agents that identify themselves and even if it's a nice day out read those crusty old "miranda rights" - we now watch videos all day long of masked, unidentified men jumping out of cars with no license plates and disappearing US citizens. Or tackling US Senators to the ground and detaining them for verbally interrupting a federal employee who reports to the Senate for oversight. You know, normal stuff. None of these "laws" seem to matter at all so it will be quite trivial to make a datacenter get written off as a nature center or whatever this "law" permits