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50% of people do not support this. That’s a made up number. Trump has barely over 40%. He is an unpopular criminal who has shown time and again he will break th

50% of people do not support this. That’s a made up number. Trump has barely over 40%. He is an unpopular criminal who has shown time and again he will break the law. What even makes you think a criminal like this would win an election fairly?

phendrenad2 1y ago
That's a good point.
jeroenhd 1y ago
Trump won the majority vote in an election that brought out a huge amount of voters compared to previous elections, and Republicans won every other government body. He's not unpopular and many people do support him, unfortunately. Best case scenario, the silent majority didn't bother to prevent Trump and his lackeys from taking over the American government. I don't think denying Trump's popularity is going to solve anything. America spoke out in support of this guy, twice, and it'll keep doing that unless the underlying issues are tackled. As for election fairness: I haven't seen any credible proof of large-scale election fraud, not when Biden won, not when Trump won.
- logicchains 1y ago
  Trump won an election but the majority of his voters are anti-Israel; polls show all Republican demographics apart from boomers have a net-negative view on Israel (and a non-trivial amount are outright anti-Semitic).
- CoastalCoder 1y ago
  I think what's missing from the 40% number is that it says nothing about how passionately the other 60% feels. I'm not concerned about the fact that the election was close. I'm concerned that, post election, the country is so deeply polarized. For the first time in my life, I fear there's a small but real chance that we're headed for civil war.
- NewJazz 1y ago
  Donald Trump has never won a majority vote in any public election. 49.9% is not a majority.
  - jeroenhd 1y ago
    That's true, I shouldn't have said "majority vote", just "most voters". The tiny sliver of irrelevant candidates did prevent Trump from gaining the majority vote. Though, as he absorbed Kennedy into his government, I would argue his current leadership gained 50.29% of the votes.
- tanaros 1y ago
  > Trump won the majority vote in an election that brought out a huge amount of voters compared to previous elections, and Republicans won every other government body. For the curious, based on [1], turnout in 2024 was 63.1% of the voting eligible population, compared to 65.3% in 2020, 59.2% in 2016, and 58.0% in 2012. [1] https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/voter-turnout-in-presidential-elections https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/voter-turnou...
  - jeroenhd 1y ago
    Which is the second largest voter turnout since VEP started being measured, exceeded only by the previous election.
LadyCailin 1y ago
70% of voting eligible Americans didn’t do the bare minimum to prevent Trump. 30% voted for him directly, and 40% couldn’t be bothered to vote at all. I’m even willing to excuse third party voters. But the Trump voters and non-voters don’t get a pass, not at all. It’s absolutely the majority of Americans.

phendrenad2 1y ago

That's a good point.

jeroenhd 1y ago

Trump won the majority vote in an election that brought out a huge amount of voters compared to previous elections, and Republicans won every other government body. He's not unpopular and many people do support him, unfortunately. Best case scenario, the silent majority didn't bother to prevent Trump and his lackeys from taking over the American government. I don't think denying Trump's popularity is going to solve anything. America spoke out in support of this guy, twice, and it'll keep doing that unless the underlying issues are tackled. As for election fairness: I haven't seen any credible proof of large-scale election fraud, not when Biden won, not when Trump won.

logicchains 1y ago
Trump won an election but the majority of his voters are anti-Israel; polls show all Republican demographics apart from boomers have a net-negative view on Israel (and a non-trivial amount are outright anti-Semitic).
CoastalCoder 1y ago
I think what's missing from the 40% number is that it says nothing about how passionately the other 60% feels. I'm not concerned about the fact that the election was close. I'm concerned that, post election, the country is so deeply polarized. For the first time in my life, I fear there's a small but real chance that we're headed for civil war.
NewJazz 1y ago
Donald Trump has never won a majority vote in any public election. 49.9% is not a majority.
- jeroenhd 1y ago
  That's true, I shouldn't have said "majority vote", just "most voters". The tiny sliver of irrelevant candidates did prevent Trump from gaining the majority vote. Though, as he absorbed Kennedy into his government, I would argue his current leadership gained 50.29% of the votes.
tanaros 1y ago
> Trump won the majority vote in an election that brought out a huge amount of voters compared to previous elections, and Republicans won every other government body. For the curious, based on [1], turnout in 2024 was 63.1% of the voting eligible population, compared to 65.3% in 2020, 59.2% in 2016, and 58.0% in 2012. [1] https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/voter-turnout-in-presidential-elections https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/voter-turnou...
- jeroenhd 1y ago
  Which is the second largest voter turnout since VEP started being measured, exceeded only by the previous election.

LadyCailin 1y ago

70% of voting eligible Americans didn’t do the bare minimum to prevent Trump. 30% voted for him directly, and 40% couldn’t be bothered to vote at all. I’m even willing to excuse third party voters. But the Trump voters and non-voters don’t get a pass, not at all. It’s absolutely the majority of Americans.