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I do occasionally forget a bag and have to but a biopolymer or LDPE bag. That doesn’t really impact my totals over a lifetime since it’s a rare occurrence. My b

by padjo 1y ago

I do occasionally forget a bag and have to but a biopolymer or LDPE bag. That doesn’t really impact my totals over a lifetime since it’s a rare occurrence. My bags are woven polyproplene, which the study you linked indicates I need to use about 50 times. I have certainly used them many multiple times more than that. I think your stance on green politics is quite odd. I’m unaware of any Green Party pushing a ban on plastic straws, in my country signature Green Party policies have been levies on single use plastic bags, plastic container deposit return schemes, the phase out of incandescent lighting, development of renewable energy and reducing the cost of public transport. All of which have measurable impacts on energy use and pollution. In my experience the notion that they push “performative” policies just isn’t true.

tgsovlerkhgsel 1y ago
> and have to but a biopolymer or LDPE bag. As long as those still exist, that's fine. I'm talking about the scenario where they have been regulated away (or companies have removed them to look more "green" and make more profit on more expensive bags), so each time this happens, you have to buy a new "reusable" bag. Which quickly nullifies the benefit. The LDPE bags also have the advantage of being quite awesome for (limited) reuse. They certainly are no "bag for life" but they can be reused a couple of times, and fold down much more compactly than many of the other types. > unaware of any Green Party pushing a ban on plastic straws The EU actually passed that as legislation in 2018 or 2019, which also makes it hard to find sources for who pushed it (the final agreement was a compromise so it passed with wide support, and the initial proposal came from the commission which isn't very transparent). The best I can give you is this press release by the Greens/EFA (the EU parliament fraction encompassing many of the green parties) https://www.greens-efa.eu/en/article/press/single-use-plastics-have-no-place-in-the-eu-economy https://www.greens-efa.eu/en/article/press/single-use-plasti... This is directly related to the ban that is now in effect. In Switzerland, I've not seen attempts to ban straws, likely because they've seen how unpopular it is and it would likely get overturned by a referendum, but the Greens repeatedly show up with demands or attempts to ban plastic bags.

by padjo 1y ago

tgsovlerkhgsel 1y ago

> and have to but a biopolymer or LDPE bag. As long as those still exist, that's fine. I'm talking about the scenario where they have been regulated away (or companies have removed them to look more "green" and make more profit on more expensive bags), so each time this happens, you have to buy a new "reusable" bag. Which quickly nullifies the benefit. The LDPE bags also have the advantage of being quite awesome for (limited) reuse. They certainly are no "bag for life" but they can be reused a couple of times, and fold down much more compactly than many of the other types. > unaware of any Green Party pushing a ban on plastic straws The EU actually passed that as legislation in 2018 or 2019, which also makes it hard to find sources for who pushed it (the final agreement was a compromise so it passed with wide support, and the initial proposal came from the commission which isn't very transparent). The best I can give you is this press release by the Greens/EFA (the EU parliament fraction encompassing many of the green parties) https://www.greens-efa.eu/en/article/press/single-use-plastics-have-no-place-in-the-eu-economy https://www.greens-efa.eu/en/article/press/single-use-plasti... This is directly related to the ban that is now in effect. In Switzerland, I've not seen attempts to ban straws, likely because they've seen how unpopular it is and it would likely get overturned by a referendum, but the Greens repeatedly show up with demands or attempts to ban plastic bags.