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> No, the democratic government exists to do what the people elect it to do. But what else are you going to ask the government to do except clean up the outlie
by 9rx 1y ago
> No, the democratic government exists to do what the people elect it to do.
But what else are you going to ask the government to do except clean up the outliers (or whatever phrasing you find more palatable, as if that somehow matters)? Anything that involves the population at large can just be done by the population at large on their own accord.
Since you wanted to talk about other countries, consider a mandate in my country: All new cars must be electric in 2030. What purpose does that serve? Think about it. If the people want to own electric cars within that timeframe (and we know they do, else why would they ask the government to deal with it?), they can just buy electric cars. You don't need someone else to tell you to do what you were already going to do anyway! That would be just plain stupid.
Of course, the real reason for the mandate is because some outliers will still try to buy ICE vehicles, contrary to wishes of the population at large. The government's job is to clean them up to ensure that everyone buys electric vehicles (or no vehicle, perhaps) by the time we get there. If every single person was on the same page, though, government really would be pointless. Of course, in reality, you'll never have a situation where everyone agrees. Hence the role of government to deal with those who are dissenters.
> Okay, literally who? Who is being forced to build houses?
What on earth are you talking about? When I said it wasn't the government's job, I meant it.
> You certainly not making liberal arguments
Well, I mean, it would be rather pointless to argue from the liberal point of view if I am a liberal, no? What are you going to learn by reiterating what you think you already know? Argument is only a useful device if you use it to explore different ideas that are not your own. Methinks you have not thought this through.
- Defletter 1y ago> Anything that involves the population at large can just be done by the population at large on their own accord. This is where I'm going to exit this discussion: this statement (which is the fundamental assumption of every argument you've presented) is so exasperatingly naive that it would require disproportionate effort on my part to rebut it, and we're already very deep into a thread that I've feebly attempted twice now to get back on-track to the happiness question. And I'm honestly not that willing to put that much effort into an internet discussion just to teach someone why a democratic government would do something for the public good and why individuals / communities may not be able to achieve it "on their own accord". I don't have the patience, the expertise, the rhetoric, or the time. Have a nice day.
- 9rx 1y ago> And I'm honestly not that willing to put that much effort into an internet discussion just to teach someone How conservative of you, being unwilling to teach yourself something new. Learning shouldn't come with that much difficulty, though. What is at the heart of your struggle? > why individuals / communities may not be able to achieve it "on their own accord" This "the government is made up of magical fairies" idea that you keep presenting simply doesn't work. Government is not of magical fairies at all, just people. If people can't do things on their own accord, government can't either, fundamentally. People and government are the exact same thing!