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My point is that most people who see that think a country like America or Europe are democracies and that is partly why it would be a misnomer. When it is argua

My point is that most people who see that think a country like America or Europe are democracies and that is partly why it would be a misnomer. When it is arguable that DPRK state is more a will of the people than the west. The elite letting the people choose between a few candidates is not a democracy. There are no “democratic” countries in that way.

mensetmanusman 1y ago
“ When it is arguable that DPRK state is more a will of the people than the west.” Ba da Ching
- skinnymuch 1y ago
  What do people like you use to prove the DPRK is auth, a dictatorship, and so bad while so smugly believing they have “freedom” and “democracy” better than the Global South? Western state depts and western state directed media manufacturing consent - ba da ching Don’t forget — the enemies of the west are all bad and evil. And the west is free and fair and democratic and not a scourge on the rest of the world.
  - mensetmanusman 1y ago
    Because when doctors go there to cure the blind from easily treatable malnutrition the people drop to the floor in fear praising the moon lord leader.
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tpm 1y ago
> When it is arguable that DPRK state is more a will of the people than the west. It's not arguable, it's simply wrong. But to understand that you would have to understand much more about the DPRK. > The elite letting the people choose between a few candidates is not a democracy. It is, but more importantly, your framing is wrong. Every democracy has several levels of democratic institutions (local, state, federal etc.), there are often 'surprise' election winners; there are also non-elective ways for non-elite people to influence policy. DPRK has none of this.
- skinnymuch 1y ago
  > But to understand that you would have to understand much more about the DPRK. I have never come across some one like you who knows about DPRK outside of what western state depts say and of course they swallow it all up. But people do sometimes lie and say they know so much like you right now
  - tpm 1y ago
    Now you did come across someone like that, so you should update your assumptions. But more importantly study more and don't be a tankie.
    - skinnymuch 1y ago
      using tankie unironically. I refer to tankie Dr MLK saying call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.

mensetmanusman 1y ago

“ When it is arguable that DPRK state is more a will of the people than the west.” Ba da Ching

skinnymuch 1y ago
What do people like you use to prove the DPRK is auth, a dictatorship, and so bad while so smugly believing they have “freedom” and “democracy” better than the Global South? Western state depts and western state directed media manufacturing consent - ba da ching Don’t forget — the enemies of the west are all bad and evil. And the west is free and fair and democratic and not a scourge on the rest of the world.
- mensetmanusman 1y ago
  Because when doctors go there to cure the blind from easily treatable malnutrition the people drop to the floor in fear praising the moon lord leader.
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tpm 1y ago

> When it is arguable that DPRK state is more a will of the people than the west. It's not arguable, it's simply wrong. But to understand that you would have to understand much more about the DPRK. > The elite letting the people choose between a few candidates is not a democracy. It is, but more importantly, your framing is wrong. Every democracy has several levels of democratic institutions (local, state, federal etc.), there are often 'surprise' election winners; there are also non-elective ways for non-elite people to influence policy. DPRK has none of this.

skinnymuch 1y ago
> But to understand that you would have to understand much more about the DPRK. I have never come across some one like you who knows about DPRK outside of what western state depts say and of course they swallow it all up. But people do sometimes lie and say they know so much like you right now
- tpm 1y ago
  Now you did come across someone like that, so you should update your assumptions. But more importantly study more and don't be a tankie.
  - skinnymuch 1y ago
    using tankie unironically. I refer to tankie Dr MLK saying call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.