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2 miles is an awfully long way, and 36% of Americans are even further away. That’s 4 miles round trip. Presumably many of those charging stations aren’t that bi
by oivey 1y ago
2 miles is an awfully long way, and 36% of Americans are even further away. That’s 4 miles round trip. Presumably many of those charging stations aren’t that big and disallow you leaving your car overnight. The rest of the numbers are similarly bad.
- anakaine 1y agoSome of the new 1000v infrastructure has 10-80% charging occuring in 5 minutes. These arguments are kind of like horse and cart owners stating that gasoline powered vehicles will.need to be able to get fuel and that's impractical. Its infrastructure and innovation that is still being built out, the that build out is now 10-12 years along for most first world nations.
- toomuchtodo 1y agoDoesn’t appear to be a problem for EV sales. Is your closest gas station 2 miles away? https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/q4-2024-ev-sales/ https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/q4-2024-ev-sales/ https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2025/trends-in-electric-car-markets-2 https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2025/trends-in...
- thedrbrian 1y ago>is your closest gas station 2 miles away? No but it only takes 3 minutes to dump 45 litres of fuel into my car and that lasts about 3 weeks of driving.
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- toomuchtodo 1y agoAlmost there. https://insideevs.com/news/758625/byd-megawatt-charging-demo-china/ https://insideevs.com/news/758625/byd-megawatt-charging-demo...
- hnburnsy 1y agoBattery swapping in 3 minutes... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=09VxbzB8x4M https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=09VxbzB8x4M
- richardw 1y agoIt’s not insane to hope many cars will be able to go and charge themselves at 2am, when roads are quiet and chargers are free, a few years from now. Optimise over the entire system, schedule it, car ready for the morning.
- margalabargala 1y agoThis is going to be a long time coming. Owners of EVs overwhelmingly live in houses not apartments. No one is going to send their car off to pay many times their home rate per kWh when they could get a home L2 charger and charge it themselves. It would pay for itself in under a year.
- richardw 1y agoMy comment is not solving for people who would be better served by charging at home, because they don’t care about the distance to a charger. Waymo’s can already find their own way to a charger, so it’s not a huge stretch to imagine people innovating around this problem for owned cars.
- margalabargala 1y agoWaymo might build a waymo specific solution, but the general case for the general population won't exist for a long time. The demand isn't there. The group of people who buy EVs and don't have a home to charge at is too small. And that won't change until the economics of purchasing an EV fundamentally change.
- richardw 1y agoI’m making very loose claims. Hope, it’s not an huge stretch, etc. My error bars are very wide, intentionally, because it’s hard to predict the next 5 years. Your position is a lot more brittle. If self driving works, cars can go fill themselves up. That can change demand, so the demand argument falls away. If taxi’s work and scale up, costs drop, so the economic issue falls away. For you to be right, no innovation must happen. The point I’m primarily trying to make, repeatedly: distance to a charger is not some universal rule that prevents uptake. The least likely thing to be true is that the market stays the same. If it remains the same in the US for a few years, China will crush this market.
- nothercastle 1y agoThe chargers probably have 2/4 chargers working at any given time.