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Well, no one pushes YouTube to give free services right? Come on, make us pay for it! See what happens.

by markus_zhang 1y ago

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> make us pay for it! See what happens I pay for YouTube and Nebula.
- markus_zhang 1y ago
  That’s your choice and I respect that.
stavros 1y ago
They are, aren't they?
Kranar 1y ago
You can pay for Youtube and you won't get ads.
- ge96 1y ago
  I thought you still got ads guess I'll find out I'll compromise, I'll get premium but still have my adblock
  - PurestGuava 1y ago
    There are no ads on Premium. Source: I have Premium and have adblock disabled on YouTube - no ads.
  - arccy 1y ago
    you don't get ads from Youtube. the people you watch may still say sponsored stuff.
kllrnohj 1y ago
YouTube Premium has existed for years now... You're absolutely able to pay for an ad-free experience, and it provides more financial support to creators than ads do
- markus_zhang 1y ago
  That is a good point. But I usually pay through Patreon. I wonder which one is better, and if I can attribute YT premium to a specific author?
  - PurestGuava 1y ago
    YT Premium revenue goes to the same creators you watch otherwise but they get compensated more for your views than they do for any other person's views. e.g. Linus Tech Tips posted up their share of revenue from AdSense in 2024; YT Premium made up 37% of their revenue despite being 29% of their views. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeCP-0nuziE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeCP-0nuziE Whether that makes a given creator more money versus Patreon depends on how much you watch them, frankly.
  - arccy 1y ago
    That's different though. Paying through Patreon is directly giving the creators a larger share, but neither party (you or the creator) pays for video hosting service in this transaction. Your argument only makes sense if you watch the creator's videos exclusively on Patreon (paid by the cut they take from your transaction) or on a platform like Vimeo (paid directly by the creator for hosting). In which case, what Youtube does isn't relevant to you.
    - anticensor 1y ago
      Patreon now lets users upload videos.
- appreciatorBus 1y ago
  The existence of premium is not the same as parent poster’s, “make us pay for it” idea, aka a paywall. If YouTube and its content actually has value, then presumably a paywall would have no effect of revenues of YouTube or creators. On the other hand if the content is actually nearly worthless, the vast majority of people would find something better to do with their time. I know which outcome I’d be betting on!

Well, no one pushes YouTube to give free services right? Come on, make us pay for it! See what happens.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> make us pay for it! See what happens I pay for YouTube and Nebula.

markus_zhang 1y ago
That’s your choice and I respect that.

stavros 1y ago

They are, aren't they?

Kranar 1y ago

You can pay for Youtube and you won't get ads.

ge96 1y ago
I thought you still got ads guess I'll find out I'll compromise, I'll get premium but still have my adblock
- PurestGuava 1y ago
  There are no ads on Premium. Source: I have Premium and have adblock disabled on YouTube - no ads.
- arccy 1y ago
  you don't get ads from Youtube. the people you watch may still say sponsored stuff.

kllrnohj 1y ago

YouTube Premium has existed for years now... You're absolutely able to pay for an ad-free experience, and it provides more financial support to creators than ads do

markus_zhang 1y ago
That is a good point. But I usually pay through Patreon. I wonder which one is better, and if I can attribute YT premium to a specific author?
- PurestGuava 1y ago
  YT Premium revenue goes to the same creators you watch otherwise but they get compensated more for your views than they do for any other person's views. e.g. Linus Tech Tips posted up their share of revenue from AdSense in 2024; YT Premium made up 37% of their revenue despite being 29% of their views. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeCP-0nuziE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeCP-0nuziE Whether that makes a given creator more money versus Patreon depends on how much you watch them, frankly.
- arccy 1y ago
  That's different though. Paying through Patreon is directly giving the creators a larger share, but neither party (you or the creator) pays for video hosting service in this transaction. Your argument only makes sense if you watch the creator's videos exclusively on Patreon (paid by the cut they take from your transaction) or on a platform like Vimeo (paid directly by the creator for hosting). In which case, what Youtube does isn't relevant to you.
  - anticensor 1y ago
    Patreon now lets users upload videos.
appreciatorBus 1y ago
The existence of premium is not the same as parent poster’s, “make us pay for it” idea, aka a paywall. If YouTube and its content actually has value, then presumably a paywall would have no effect of revenues of YouTube or creators. On the other hand if the content is actually nearly worthless, the vast majority of people would find something better to do with their time. I know which outcome I’d be betting on!