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I can see how someone could feel like that if they looked at the world in a particular way. I have had plenty of ideas in the last few years that I have played

by Lerc 1y ago

I can see how someone could feel like that if they looked at the world in a particular way. I have had plenty of ideas in the last few years that I have played with that I have seen published in papers in the following months. Rather than feeling like "I did it first" I feel gratified that not only was I on the right track, but someone else has done the hard slog. Most papers are not published by people who had the idea the day before. Their work goes back further than that. Refining the idea, testing it and then presenting the results takes time, sometimes years, occasionally decades. If this happens to you, don't think "Hey! That idea belongs to me!". Thank them for proving you right. Now if they patent it, that's a different story. I don't think the ideas that sometimes float through my brain belong to me, but I'm not keen on them belonging to someone else either.

kleiba 1y ago
I think that's slightly mispresenting Schmidhuber's case though, because he does not just say "oh, I already had that same idea before you, I just follow up on it". He is usually referring to work that he or members of his group (or third-party researchers for that amatter) did, in fact, already publish.
Kranar 1y ago
This claim is sheer hubris. There is a big difference between spending years researching and working on a nascent subject and publishing it in academic journals, only to have someone else come along and use most of your ideas without attribution and reaping huge rewards for doing so... and having some random ideas float about in your head on a nice summer afternoon by the lake, and then a few months later find out that someone else also shared those same ideas and managed to work through them into something fruitful. Now whether what Schmidhuber claims is what actually happened or not I don't know... but that is his claim and it's fundamentally different from what you are describing.

by Lerc 1y ago

kleiba 1y ago

I think that's slightly mispresenting Schmidhuber's case though, because he does not just say "oh, I already had that same idea before you, I just follow up on it". He is usually referring to work that he or members of his group (or third-party researchers for that amatter) did, in fact, already publish.

Kranar 1y ago

This claim is sheer hubris. There is a big difference between spending years researching and working on a nascent subject and publishing it in academic journals, only to have someone else come along and use most of your ideas without attribution and reaping huge rewards for doing so... and having some random ideas float about in your head on a nice summer afternoon by the lake, and then a few months later find out that someone else also shared those same ideas and managed to work through them into something fruitful. Now whether what Schmidhuber claims is what actually happened or not I don't know... but that is his claim and it's fundamentally different from what you are describing.