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What a great story. Going from "it's a vagina with teeth, that's bad" to "it's a penis with teeth, that's good" made me chuckle... just sounds so typical of cre

What a great story. Going from "it's a vagina with teeth, that's bad" to "it's a penis with teeth, that's good" made me chuckle... just sounds so typical of creatives. Some might point and say sexism, but I think it's consistent with established tropes. There are piles of analogies between sex and aggression (the Latin word for “sheath” is vagina). An image of a penis-like shark attacking a nude woman is another to throw on the pile.

echelon 1y ago
The creatives of that time were so sex-minded. There were countless references to Freud and Kafka, HR Giger designed monsters after anatomy and fertility. Sex in general seemed to be on the tip of the tongue of so many authors, writers, and directors of that pre-internet era. Accessible internet probably took the wind out of their sails. Media has become less porny over time, and the younger generations have even expressed an aversion to it.
- t-writescode 1y ago
  Knowing several creatives, it's definitely not less porny or horny, it's just differently horny and porny. Fetish content is *RAMPANT* when you know the techniques that are being used, for example. Edging is *very*, *very* popular in clickbait content, for example.
Spivak 1y ago
This is just how the horror genre works. Big fantastical monster or supernatural horrors but meant to be connected to real life fears. The classic haunted house trope where the family sinks all their money into a house and father gets slowly possessed by a demon is meant to evoke the fear of financial troubles causing your partner to become abusive. The Xenomorphs in Alien are meant to evoke the fear of rape and child birth. Unsuspecting woman alone in a vulnerable situation attacked by a vicious creature— I can see why they thought the penis angle fit better.
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thaumasiotes 1y ago
> There are piles of analogies between sex and aggression (the Latin word for “sheath” is vagina). Well, you're right about the Latin meaning of vagina. How does that illustrate the existence of analogies between sex and aggression?
- emmelaich 1y ago
  Sheaths also sheath swords. Relatedly, the slang (or 'real') word for penis is/was weapon in old English.
  - thaumasiotes 1y ago
    > Sheaths also sheath swords. So? Sharing an extremely general trait with many things including swords isn't an analogy to swords. Is wine analogized to aggression because guns have barrels? Besides scabbards, the other prominent use of vagina in Latin was to refer to the husk of grain. Do you conclude that an analogy is being drawn between sex and nourishment? Sex and worthlessness? Wouldn't that conflict with the idea that the use of the word vagina is an analogy to aggression? How can the same fact be evidence both for and against that idea? > Relatedly, the slang (or 'real') word for penis is/was weapon in old English. Why do you think this is related?

echelon 1y ago

The creatives of that time were so sex-minded. There were countless references to Freud and Kafka, HR Giger designed monsters after anatomy and fertility. Sex in general seemed to be on the tip of the tongue of so many authors, writers, and directors of that pre-internet era. Accessible internet probably took the wind out of their sails. Media has become less porny over time, and the younger generations have even expressed an aversion to it.

t-writescode 1y ago
Knowing several creatives, it's definitely not less porny or horny, it's just differently horny and porny. Fetish content is *RAMPANT* when you know the techniques that are being used, for example. Edging is *very*, *very* popular in clickbait content, for example.

Spivak 1y ago

This is just how the horror genre works. Big fantastical monster or supernatural horrors but meant to be connected to real life fears. The classic haunted house trope where the family sinks all their money into a house and father gets slowly possessed by a demon is meant to evoke the fear of financial troubles causing your partner to become abusive. The Xenomorphs in Alien are meant to evoke the fear of rape and child birth. Unsuspecting woman alone in a vulnerable situation attacked by a vicious creature— I can see why they thought the penis angle fit better.

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thaumasiotes 1y ago

> There are piles of analogies between sex and aggression (the Latin word for “sheath” is vagina). Well, you're right about the Latin meaning of vagina. How does that illustrate the existence of analogies between sex and aggression?

emmelaich 1y ago
Sheaths also sheath swords. Relatedly, the slang (or 'real') word for penis is/was weapon in old English.
- thaumasiotes 1y ago
  > Sheaths also sheath swords. So? Sharing an extremely general trait with many things including swords isn't an analogy to swords. Is wine analogized to aggression because guns have barrels? Besides scabbards, the other prominent use of vagina in Latin was to refer to the husk of grain. Do you conclude that an analogy is being drawn between sex and nourishment? Sex and worthlessness? Wouldn't that conflict with the idea that the use of the word vagina is an analogy to aggression? How can the same fact be evidence both for and against that idea? > Relatedly, the slang (or 'real') word for penis is/was weapon in old English. Why do you think this is related?