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It's not necessarily a recipe for that, but you've gotten us well started down that path with your neg-meta for sure. Atheists among the population experience

by chimi 14y ago

It's not necessarily a recipe for that, but you've gotten us well started down that path with your neg-meta for sure. Atheists among the population experience a similar level discrimination out in the wild that women do in computer science and we talk about that all the time. Personally, I find this intellectually stimulating and positive news for those who experience that negativity. You don't need to be negative yourself. Instead of fostering discussion, your post will likely be voted all the way to the top, so discussion of the article's content will never start and instead we can just bicker about whether or not it should have been posted at all for the three quarters of the thread...

tptacek 14y ago
Every story that ever gets posted here that's outside the site guidelines is invariably accompanied by these lame attempts to tie the story somehow back to computer science. You could more credibly tie Ron Paul to Hacker News than you could this article about atheism in politics. "Discrimination against atheists in computer science". Really. In this case, your account has been active for a total of 47 days, so I'm going to put my money on "you've never read the site guidelines that Paul Graham wrote when he started HN". They're linked to the bottom of the page. And, yep. Also, you can thank me for flagging the story. It doesn't belong here. There are much better places on the entire Internet to talk about this stuff.
- chimi 14y ago
  > your account has been active for a total of 47 days, > so I'm going to put my money on "you've never read > the site guidelines that Paul Graham wrote when he > started HN" Pulling out the "You haven't been around here long enough to get it" card already, huh? I've been here for many years with many accounts and read the guidelines many times. I never remember my password. I get a new account when I clear my cookies, so you can stuff your ad hominem in your little hat and keep it to yourself. I appreciate my anonymity and don't want to share my email address. I thank pg for not requiring it. I judge comments based on their merit, not who posted it or how old their account is. Countless articles are posted here every day that exist outside the guidelines. If you don't want to participate in the discussion that evolves within them, then don't. Go read another article and post to that one, or fine, flag it. You don't need to come in here and disrupt the potential great conversations that may occur just because you want to cry about the guidelines. No hate necessary. Just relax. Give good things opportunities to exist. Be optimistic.
  - tptacek 14y ago
    No.
  - tokenadult 14y ago
    Countless articles are posted here every day that exist outside the guidelines. Fully agreed with the factual statement you have just made there. But fully agreed with tptacek that the guidelines are worth preserving. HN doesn't have to become the general discussion site for the whole World Wide Web. I appreciate his taking the time to express an opinion on the scope of the site guidelines (which, empirically, appears to be shared by other participants here) and will bear that in mind as I decide what to submit, what to flag, and how to discuss submissions here.
- tokenadult 14y ago
  Your view on the scope of the guidelines noted. Thanks for taking the time to reply. There are much better places on the entire Internet to talk about this stuff. If it's too much trouble, never mind, and perhaps the reply to this question should stay off-forum, but what are some of the better places for discussing the topic of the submitted article? I have not found those yet, perhaps simply because the places I've seen for discussions of that topic haven't established as civil a culture as the best online communities I frequent.
statictype 14y ago
You feel it's intellectually stimulating. I find it tedious and boring and the exact perfect model of the type of article that doesn't belong in this site. So, flagged.

by chimi 14y ago

tptacek 14y ago

Every story that ever gets posted here that's outside the site guidelines is invariably accompanied by these lame attempts to tie the story somehow back to computer science. You could more credibly tie Ron Paul to Hacker News than you could this article about atheism in politics. "Discrimination against atheists in computer science". Really. In this case, your account has been active for a total of 47 days, so I'm going to put my money on "you've never read the site guidelines that Paul Graham wrote when he started HN". They're linked to the bottom of the page. And, yep. Also, you can thank me for flagging the story. It doesn't belong here. There are much better places on the entire Internet to talk about this stuff.

chimi 14y ago
> your account has been active for a total of 47 days, > so I'm going to put my money on "you've never read > the site guidelines that Paul Graham wrote when he > started HN" Pulling out the "You haven't been around here long enough to get it" card already, huh? I've been here for many years with many accounts and read the guidelines many times. I never remember my password. I get a new account when I clear my cookies, so you can stuff your ad hominem in your little hat and keep it to yourself. I appreciate my anonymity and don't want to share my email address. I thank pg for not requiring it. I judge comments based on their merit, not who posted it or how old their account is. Countless articles are posted here every day that exist outside the guidelines. If you don't want to participate in the discussion that evolves within them, then don't. Go read another article and post to that one, or fine, flag it. You don't need to come in here and disrupt the potential great conversations that may occur just because you want to cry about the guidelines. No hate necessary. Just relax. Give good things opportunities to exist. Be optimistic.
- tptacek 14y ago
  No.
- tokenadult 14y ago
  Countless articles are posted here every day that exist outside the guidelines. Fully agreed with the factual statement you have just made there. But fully agreed with tptacek that the guidelines are worth preserving. HN doesn't have to become the general discussion site for the whole World Wide Web. I appreciate his taking the time to express an opinion on the scope of the site guidelines (which, empirically, appears to be shared by other participants here) and will bear that in mind as I decide what to submit, what to flag, and how to discuss submissions here.
tokenadult 14y ago
Your view on the scope of the guidelines noted. Thanks for taking the time to reply. There are much better places on the entire Internet to talk about this stuff. If it's too much trouble, never mind, and perhaps the reply to this question should stay off-forum, but what are some of the better places for discussing the topic of the submitted article? I have not found those yet, perhaps simply because the places I've seen for discussions of that topic haven't established as civil a culture as the best online communities I frequent.

statictype 14y ago

You feel it's intellectually stimulating. I find it tedious and boring and the exact perfect model of the type of article that doesn't belong in this site. So, flagged.