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It is a big problem in Democratic states like California, where the leftists (Dean Preston and other leftist NIMBYs) have allied themselves with homeowner liber

It is a big problem in Democratic states like California, where the leftists (Dean Preston and other leftist NIMBYs) have allied themselves with homeowner liberals to make it impossible to build housing. Republican states like Texas do a significantly better job, as you can see by looking at annual per capita new housing, and lower rental inflation. There's a growing liberal movement to change this status quo but they're still not that influential beyond rhetorical support from some Dems.

detourdog 1y ago
North Adams Massachusetts has plenty of empty housing. There is a lot of vacant housing in Western Massachusetts.
- energy123 1y ago
  Those are words that are low in epistemic legibility. I look at metrics to arrive at my opinions. Things like the difference between the number of new housing per capita in various cities in California compared to Austin, Texas. Things like the R^2 when you do a linear regression of the amount of new housing per capita against changes in rental inflation.
  - detourdog 1y ago
    I can't really follow your comment but new housing costs a lot because we now have high standards for what can be legally rented for buildings with more than 5 units. The housing I was describing as plentiful is a mixture of existing housing as either standalone or fewer than 5 units.
BryantD 1y ago
To be fair, Minnesota is getting it right and Washington is reluctantly stumbling in the right direction. However, I’m forced to agree on the general sentiment. California is a bit embarrassing. We’ll see how the Builder’s Remedy and laws like SB 1123 play out, I suppose.
derelicta 1y ago
There are no leftists in the US. The people you are refering to a liberals, who are defacto identical to conservatives
- energy123 1y ago
  Dean Preston is a self-described socialist. A socialist is not a conservative.
  - svantana 1y ago
    His instagram bio reads "Housing advocate, democratic socialist", so if self-descriptions are taken as truth, it kinda undermines the whole point of the argument.
  - CBarkleyU 1y ago
    Well, but a self-described socialist might just not be a socialist.
    - PaulHoule 1y ago
      My guess is that a Chinese communist is not a leftist.
- danaris 1y ago
  Hi there! I live in the US. I am a leftist. I am in favor of prison abolition, universal basic income, massively increased taxation of the rich, and voting reform. Care to explain why I either don't count or don't really exist?
  - fragmede 1y ago
    Because of the two party system, you have to either vote Democrat or Republican for your vote to count, so your actually leftist ideals, which are to the left of the centrist Democrat party, do not meaningfully exist as a voting block.
xnx 1y ago
Is "blue state" / "red state" the right distinction, or "rich area" / "poor area"? Rich people anywhere will do all they can to keep their property values from going down.
loudmax 1y ago
There is a proposal to build an apartment complex in my neighborhood in Northern Virginia. The houses that had Trump lawn signs up last year, now have lawn signs arguing to block the new housing (or "preserve the neighborhood's character"). NIMBYism is an economic issue, not a culture issue. It has far more to do with how much impact the new housing is expected to have on the value of people's property. Or more saliently, the equity they have in the property. If people expect that nearby housing will cut their $500k equity in half, they're likely to petition against it, regardless of whether their governor is a Republican or a Democrat. NIMBY isn't red or blue, it's just fear and greed.
- sokoloff 1y ago
  It’s part fear and greed, but also part rational and practical. Increased housing nearby brings increased traffic, parking pressure, crowding, and noise, none of which are positives for current residents. Fear and greed don’t motivate renters to be NIMBY, yet we have NIMBY renters because of other factors.
queenkjuul 1y ago
> leftists Lmao
PaulHoule 1y ago
Housing costs in Texas are going up too: https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/messing-with-texas-how-big-homebuilders https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/messing-with-texas-how-bi...

detourdog 1y ago

North Adams Massachusetts has plenty of empty housing. There is a lot of vacant housing in Western Massachusetts.

energy123 1y ago
Those are words that are low in epistemic legibility. I look at metrics to arrive at my opinions. Things like the difference between the number of new housing per capita in various cities in California compared to Austin, Texas. Things like the R^2 when you do a linear regression of the amount of new housing per capita against changes in rental inflation.
- detourdog 1y ago
  I can't really follow your comment but new housing costs a lot because we now have high standards for what can be legally rented for buildings with more than 5 units. The housing I was describing as plentiful is a mixture of existing housing as either standalone or fewer than 5 units.

BryantD 1y ago

To be fair, Minnesota is getting it right and Washington is reluctantly stumbling in the right direction. However, I’m forced to agree on the general sentiment. California is a bit embarrassing. We’ll see how the Builder’s Remedy and laws like SB 1123 play out, I suppose.

derelicta 1y ago

There are no leftists in the US. The people you are refering to a liberals, who are defacto identical to conservatives

energy123 1y ago
Dean Preston is a self-described socialist. A socialist is not a conservative.
- svantana 1y ago
  His instagram bio reads "Housing advocate, democratic socialist", so if self-descriptions are taken as truth, it kinda undermines the whole point of the argument.
- CBarkleyU 1y ago
  Well, but a self-described socialist might just not be a socialist.
  - PaulHoule 1y ago
    My guess is that a Chinese communist is not a leftist.
danaris 1y ago
Hi there! I live in the US. I am a leftist. I am in favor of prison abolition, universal basic income, massively increased taxation of the rich, and voting reform. Care to explain why I either don't count or don't really exist?
- fragmede 1y ago
  Because of the two party system, you have to either vote Democrat or Republican for your vote to count, so your actually leftist ideals, which are to the left of the centrist Democrat party, do not meaningfully exist as a voting block.

xnx 1y ago

Is "blue state" / "red state" the right distinction, or "rich area" / "poor area"? Rich people anywhere will do all they can to keep their property values from going down.

loudmax 1y ago

There is a proposal to build an apartment complex in my neighborhood in Northern Virginia. The houses that had Trump lawn signs up last year, now have lawn signs arguing to block the new housing (or "preserve the neighborhood's character"). NIMBYism is an economic issue, not a culture issue. It has far more to do with how much impact the new housing is expected to have on the value of people's property. Or more saliently, the equity they have in the property. If people expect that nearby housing will cut their $500k equity in half, they're likely to petition against it, regardless of whether their governor is a Republican or a Democrat. NIMBY isn't red or blue, it's just fear and greed.

sokoloff 1y ago
It’s part fear and greed, but also part rational and practical. Increased housing nearby brings increased traffic, parking pressure, crowding, and noise, none of which are positives for current residents. Fear and greed don’t motivate renters to be NIMBY, yet we have NIMBY renters because of other factors.

queenkjuul 1y ago

> leftists Lmao

PaulHoule 1y ago

Housing costs in Texas are going up too: https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/messing-with-texas-how-big-homebuilders https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/messing-with-texas-how-bi...