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Now I remember, a lot of the Mac apps back then had this weird "side panel" thing where side panel went "out" of the window. I don't know the precise name of th

Now I remember, a lot of the Mac apps back then had this weird "side panel" thing where side panel went "out" of the window. I don't know the precise name of the pattern, but that would be probably the most confusing thing. Oh also the + button didn't do full screen as today, but... it did... something. I never understood the point of the + button.

robenkleene 1y ago
Re the side panel, you're probably thinking of "Drawers". Here's a screenshot https://www.oreilly.com/api/v2/epubs/0596003706/files/tagoreillycom20070301oreillyimages146558.png.jpg https://www.oreilly.com/api/v2/epubs/0596003706/files/tagore...
- karel-3d 1y ago
  Yes, that exactly! They used to be common in 10.4 days.
lode 1y ago
> Oh also the + button didn't do full screen as today, but... it did... something. I never understood the point of the + button. When I first came from Windows I was confused about this as well, but once I got the hang of it, it became the most logical thing to me. The green + button zoomed the window to the minimum window size that showed the full content. (For example, one page in a word processor or one slide in presentation software.)
- Cockbrand 1y ago
  That functionality was adopted from Classic Mac OS, and I loved it. Too bad this isn't properly supported any more.
  - badc0ffee 1y ago
    Hold down Option and the <> in the green circle for full screen will turn into a + for maximize. You can also double click the title bar in most applications for the same effect.
badc0ffee 1y ago
It's called "maximize". You can get the + back by pressing Option while clicking the green circle. Double clicking the title bar in many applications will also maximize the window.
- karel-3d 1y ago
  It didn't maximize! It sometimes shrank the window! And in case of iTunes it changed the window entirely!
  - badc0ffee 1y ago
    If the window is already maximized, the button should "restore" it to the previous smaller size. Unless you're describing something different?

robenkleene 1y ago

Re the side panel, you're probably thinking of "Drawers". Here's a screenshot https://www.oreilly.com/api/v2/epubs/0596003706/files/tagoreillycom20070301oreillyimages146558.png.jpg https://www.oreilly.com/api/v2/epubs/0596003706/files/tagore...

karel-3d 1y ago
Yes, that exactly! They used to be common in 10.4 days.

lode 1y ago

> Oh also the + button didn't do full screen as today, but... it did... something. I never understood the point of the + button. When I first came from Windows I was confused about this as well, but once I got the hang of it, it became the most logical thing to me. The green + button zoomed the window to the minimum window size that showed the full content. (For example, one page in a word processor or one slide in presentation software.)

Cockbrand 1y ago
That functionality was adopted from Classic Mac OS, and I loved it. Too bad this isn't properly supported any more.
- badc0ffee 1y ago
  Hold down Option and the <> in the green circle for full screen will turn into a + for maximize. You can also double click the title bar in most applications for the same effect.

badc0ffee 1y ago

It's called "maximize". You can get the + back by pressing Option while clicking the green circle. Double clicking the title bar in many applications will also maximize the window.

karel-3d 1y ago
It didn't maximize! It sometimes shrank the window! And in case of iTunes it changed the window entirely!
- badc0ffee 1y ago
  If the window is already maximized, the button should "restore" it to the previous smaller size. Unless you're describing something different?