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Nope. Has nothing to do with them being nerds. They are actively dangerous, their views almost always lead to extremely reactionary politics. EA and RA are deep
by creatonez 1y ago
Nope. Has nothing to do with them being nerds. They are actively dangerous, their views almost always lead to extremely reactionary politics. EA and RA are deeply anti-human. In some cases that manifests as a desire to subjugate humanity with an iron fist technocratic rule, in other cases it manifests as a desire to kill off humanity.
Either way, as an ideology it must be stopped. It should not be treated with kids gloves, it is an ideology that is actively influencing the ruling elites right now (JD Vance, Musk, Thiel are part of this cult, and also simultaneously believe in German-style Nazism, which is broadly compatible with RA). The only silver lining is that some of their ideas about power-seeking tactics are so ineffective they will never work -- in other words, humanity will prevail over these ghouls, because they came in with so many bad assumptions that they've lost touch with reality.
- Uhhrrr 1y agoIn what specific way do you disagree with them?
- creatonez 1y agoThe support for eugenics and ethnic cleansing, the absolute obsession with strictly utilitarian ethics and ignorance of other ethics, the "kill a bunch of humans now so that trillions can live in the future" longtermist death cult, and the whole Roko's basilisk worship that usually goes like "one AI system can take over the entirety of humanity and start eating the galaxy, therefore we must forcefully jump in the driver seat of that dangerous AI right now so that our elite ideology is locked in for a trillion years of galactic evolution".
- therealdrag0 1y agoHuh? They give millions of dollars to global humanitarian development funds saving at least 50,000 lives per year. Maybe you’re taking a few kooks who have a controversial lecture somewhere as representing everyone else.
- creatonez 1y agoIt is true that there were EAs before the conception of "longtermism" that were relatively mundane and actually helping humanity, and not part of a death cult. But those have been shunned from the EA movement for a while now.
- comp_throw7 1y agoGlobal Health & Development is like 40% of EA funding today. Please stop making things up.
- lechatonnoir 1y agoI think you're conflating different groups of people pretty severely. "shunned" in particular is a really strong word, e.g, global health and biosecurity are two of the named categories at the most central EA events: https://www.effectivealtruism.org/ea-global/events/ea-global-new-york-city-2025 https://www.effectivealtruism.org/ea-global/events/ea-global...
- j_timberlake 1y agoIf you're going to claim a group is "deeply anti-human ghouls", maybe include an example or 2 of this in your post.