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> But there was no one to coordinate Linux on desktop. Freedesktop.org?
by mongol 1y ago
> But there was no one to coordinate Linux on desktop.
Freedesktop.org?
- wmf 1y agoI get the impression that some people don't want to participate in FreeDesktop. Maybe they see it as bloated or too aligned with GNOME.
- freeone3000 1y agoI’m still mad they stole the scriptable, composable DCOP and put it all behind a binary format.
- LtWorf 1y agowhatever happened with kdbus btw?
- deleted 1y ago[deleted]
- dwheeler 1y agoYes. GNOME and KDE at least coordinate via freedesktop.org. At least they did!
- hackernoops 1y ago[flagged]
- bilkow 1y agoI got curious and found a ton of red flags in about half hour... Summary of the drama that resulted in Xlibre: - https://discuss.pixls.us/t/weekly-recap-8-june-2025/50638 https://discuss.pixls.us/t/weekly-recap-8-june-2025/50638 From the README at https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver: > This is an independent project, not at all affiliated with BigTech or any of their subsidiaries or tax evasion tools, nor any political activists groups, state actors, etc. It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Anybody who's treating others nicely is welcomed. This exchange between him and Torvalds in 2021: - https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/903 https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/903 - https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/957 https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/957
- shadowgovt 1y agoLooking at the history of that doc, I was most annoyed not about what was added but what was removed: the random anti-DEI stuff was in place of the part that described what an X server is. Like, my guy. If your goal is to provide a better solution than the existing one, telling people what you're making is step 1. No, the user can't be assumed to already know. You've already made your first mistake if you've made that assumption.
- mariusor 1y agoI'm pretty sure that's not addressed to any potential "users", unless you're thinking that the future developers of the project are them.
- shadowgovt 1y agoThe changes were in the README. That file is addressed to everyone who will have reason to touch the software: developers, users, future archivists trying to figure out what this directory is for.
- bitwize 1y agoXlibre is doing more to bury X than Wayland could achieve in decades on its own strength. If X11's only working implementation is maintained by a fascist or fascist-adjacent lunatic, watch the major applications, libraries, and toolkits rip out their X support code paths in a hurry.
- j16sdiz 1y agoThose are for DEs. For end-user application, it's a mess. You can't compile once and run everywhere. LSB (Linux Standard Base) tried to that and failed. flatpak/Snap/AppImage all tried to that, each have its own set of problems.
- LtWorf 1y agoCan you compile on windows11 and run it on windows xp? Yeah didn't think so
- int_19h 1y agoYou can do this even with the official Microsoft SDKs (just need to have the XP targeting pack). And then there are numerous third party development tools that allow this.
- LtWorf 1y agoYou can do this on linux too, make a chroot, done.
- freeone3000 1y agoWindows doesn’t need a chroot and a separate install base. You can build one binary for Longhorn, using the Windows 11 SDK, and it will run on everything from NT4 to 11 without modification.
- LtWorf 1y ago*assuming you wrote it in such a way to be able to do it
- int_19h 1y agoYeah, and then hope that the tools that you need to build even run on some ancient glibc version.