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Neutron Drive - A code editor for Google Drive and Chrome

81 points by cyberpanther 14y ago

manaskarekar 14y ago
If I understand correctly, this naturally handles concurrent multiple users the way a normal Google document would? Looks very cool!
- PizzaPanther 14y ago
  Waiting for the Google to release their collaboration API to allow real time collaboration. But yes right now you can share a file just like you would as a Google Document.
  - laughinghan 14y ago
    By "concurrent multiple users the way a normal Google document would", I think manaskarekar meant real-time collaboration, so that's a no.
agravier 14y ago
It might be a nice app but it requires permission to perform R/W operations when I'm not using the application. Why do you need those permissions?
- cyberpanther 14y ago
  The app doesn't do this, but in order to list all files on your drive I had to request full permissions.
  - dbaupp 14y ago
    It might be nice to have this explanation visible on the page too (I was also a little disconcerted by it request so many permissions).
d23 14y ago
Does anyone have examples of good use cases for this? I personally can't imagine why it would be more useful than my full IDE, though I'm eager to hear how others might use it.
- cyberpanther 14y ago
  Agreed this might not replace your full IDE, but it could maybe used as a compliment to your normal development for a quick update on the go, or maybe you need to review some code when your not at your desk. Also once Google releases the docs collaboration API, you'll be able to do pair programming.
  - maratd 14y ago
    I use cloud9, which has ace as the base platform as well. It completely replaced Aptana (Eclipse based fork) for me. I use it exclusively for development and it works quite well.
    - alcidesfonseca 14y ago
      You should blog about it. I am really interesting in knowing your workflow and the reasons.
      - maratd 14y ago
        I don't have time to blog, unfortunately. The reason was simple, I wanted a development stack that includes as little natively installed software as possible. With just Chrome, I have everything I need. I connect via VPN to my office network. The Secure Shell extension lets me connect to my server via SSH, Cloud9 allows me to edit code, and I can see my work in the same browser. In the end, I can develop on any machine that has a modern browser installed.
    - alcidesfonseca 14y ago
      You should blog about it. I am really interesting in knowing your workflow and the reasons.
jamesmeador 14y ago
You can leverage App Engine's Channel API for some minimal collaboration techniques.
TeMPOraL 14y ago
Won't replace Emacs for me for a simple reason - even if this editor supported rebinding keyboard shortcuts, the platform - Chrome - won't allow to bind some key combinations, like CTRL+n. It's a failure of the platform, not the editor; web version of Emacs (featured on HN some time ago) is also unusable on this browser.
- cyberpanther 14y ago
  Totally understand and noticed Chrome is taking away more shortcuts. Used to be able to do Ctrl-O and now with Chrome 21 that stopped working, and it always opens the open dialog.
skybrian 14y ago
What does "Google Drive revision control" mean in this case?
- cyberpanther 14y ago
  If ever use Google Docs, there is a complete revision history of all changes made to the doc. Neutron Drive implements this feature and keeps revisions for you also of any file you edit. If you ever need to go back and revert to an old version of a file you can just review all your old versions and revert.
- nivco 14y ago
  All files have revisions management in Google Drive. You can see this feature by doing: Right click on a file > Manage revisions... Then it's up to the client using the Drive API to use the correct parameter when uploading a new change to create a new revision or overwrite the current revision.
SquareWheel 14y ago
Looks really good. I had high hopes for Bespin, but I haven't heard anything about that in some time, so I suppose I'll start watching this project instead. I know it's based heavily on GDocs, but my workflow is based around Dropbox. Maybe something could be rigged up there.
- jmitcheson 14y ago
  Bespin merged with "Ace" - the new project is at http://ace.ajax.org/ http://ace.ajax.org/ or https://github.com/ajaxorg/ace https://github.com/ajaxorg/ace. As an aside, I was sad to see Bespin go. It used canvas for rendering, while Ace uses the DOM. While the Ace team had good reasons for this, Bespin just looked so.. pretty..
  - SquareWheel 14y ago
    Oh my, and this is based on "Ace", so we've come full circle. I didn't realize Bespin was gone, that's a shame, but it looks like they're making a lot of progress. Being in the process of moving from a (dying) desktop to a laptop, I appreciate things like Chrome syncing where I don't have to spend a whole day configuring my browser any more. I am okay with moving more of my apps to the web, assuming offline mode is always an option. I look forward to more "cloud" products like this.
  - cyberpanther 14y ago
    You may see a return to canvas with ace. I saw an upcoming version at Google IO and believe it used canvas and webgl.
DonnyV 14y ago
I wonder when they will offer side by side compare with older revisions.
- cyberpanther 14y ago
  Taking feature requests at: https://github.com/pizzapanther/Neutron-Drive/issues https://github.com/pizzapanther/Neutron-Drive/issues

81 points by cyberpanther 14y ago

If I understand correctly, this naturally handles concurrent multiple users the way a normal Google document would? Looks very cool!

PizzaPanther 14y ago
Waiting for the Google to release their collaboration API to allow real time collaboration. But yes right now you can share a file just like you would as a Google Document.
- laughinghan 14y ago
  By "concurrent multiple users the way a normal Google document would", I think manaskarekar meant real-time collaboration, so that's a no.

agravier 14y ago

It might be a nice app but it requires permission to perform R/W operations when I'm not using the application. Why do you need those permissions?

cyberpanther 14y ago
The app doesn't do this, but in order to list all files on your drive I had to request full permissions.
- dbaupp 14y ago
  It might be nice to have this explanation visible on the page too (I was also a little disconcerted by it request so many permissions).

d23 14y ago

Does anyone have examples of good use cases for this? I personally can't imagine why it would be more useful than my full IDE, though I'm eager to hear how others might use it.

cyberpanther 14y ago
Agreed this might not replace your full IDE, but it could maybe used as a compliment to your normal development for a quick update on the go, or maybe you need to review some code when your not at your desk. Also once Google releases the docs collaboration API, you'll be able to do pair programming.
- maratd 14y ago
  I use cloud9, which has ace as the base platform as well. It completely replaced Aptana (Eclipse based fork) for me. I use it exclusively for development and it works quite well.
  - alcidesfonseca 14y ago
    You should blog about it. I am really interesting in knowing your workflow and the reasons.
    - maratd 14y ago
      I don't have time to blog, unfortunately. The reason was simple, I wanted a development stack that includes as little natively installed software as possible. With just Chrome, I have everything I need. I connect via VPN to my office network. The Secure Shell extension lets me connect to my server via SSH, Cloud9 allows me to edit code, and I can see my work in the same browser. In the end, I can develop on any machine that has a modern browser installed.
  - alcidesfonseca 14y ago
    You should blog about it. I am really interesting in knowing your workflow and the reasons.

jamesmeador 14y ago

You can leverage App Engine's Channel API for some minimal collaboration techniques.

TeMPOraL 14y ago

Won't replace Emacs for me for a simple reason - even if this editor supported rebinding keyboard shortcuts, the platform - Chrome - won't allow to bind some key combinations, like CTRL+n. It's a failure of the platform, not the editor; web version of Emacs (featured on HN some time ago) is also unusable on this browser.

cyberpanther 14y ago
Totally understand and noticed Chrome is taking away more shortcuts. Used to be able to do Ctrl-O and now with Chrome 21 that stopped working, and it always opens the open dialog.

skybrian 14y ago

What does "Google Drive revision control" mean in this case?

cyberpanther 14y ago
If ever use Google Docs, there is a complete revision history of all changes made to the doc. Neutron Drive implements this feature and keeps revisions for you also of any file you edit. If you ever need to go back and revert to an old version of a file you can just review all your old versions and revert.
nivco 14y ago
All files have revisions management in Google Drive. You can see this feature by doing: Right click on a file > Manage revisions... Then it's up to the client using the Drive API to use the correct parameter when uploading a new change to create a new revision or overwrite the current revision.

SquareWheel 14y ago

Looks really good. I had high hopes for Bespin, but I haven't heard anything about that in some time, so I suppose I'll start watching this project instead. I know it's based heavily on GDocs, but my workflow is based around Dropbox. Maybe something could be rigged up there.

jmitcheson 14y ago
Bespin merged with "Ace" - the new project is at http://ace.ajax.org/ http://ace.ajax.org/ or https://github.com/ajaxorg/ace https://github.com/ajaxorg/ace. As an aside, I was sad to see Bespin go. It used canvas for rendering, while Ace uses the DOM. While the Ace team had good reasons for this, Bespin just looked so.. pretty..
- SquareWheel 14y ago
  Oh my, and this is based on "Ace", so we've come full circle. I didn't realize Bespin was gone, that's a shame, but it looks like they're making a lot of progress. Being in the process of moving from a (dying) desktop to a laptop, I appreciate things like Chrome syncing where I don't have to spend a whole day configuring my browser any more. I am okay with moving more of my apps to the web, assuming offline mode is always an option. I look forward to more "cloud" products like this.
- cyberpanther 14y ago
  You may see a return to canvas with ace. I saw an upcoming version at Google IO and believe it used canvas and webgl.

DonnyV 14y ago

I wonder when they will offer side by side compare with older revisions.

cyberpanther 14y ago
Taking feature requests at: https://github.com/pizzapanther/Neutron-Drive/issues https://github.com/pizzapanther/Neutron-Drive/issues