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I don't think Trump personally is anti-semetic. But it's pretty common for right-wingers, even neo-Nazis, to support Israel because of the argument "The Jews ge

I don't think Trump personally is anti-semetic. But it's pretty common for right-wingers, even neo-Nazis, to support Israel because of the argument "The Jews get to have a state to call their home, why not Whites?"

FirmwareBurner 1y ago
>But it's pretty common for right-wingers, even neo-Nazis, to support Israel because of the argument "The Jews get to have a state to call their home, why not Whites?" It really isn't. Where did you get that information?
- const_cast 1y ago
  From right-wingers and neo-nazis. There's a big overlap between Zionism and right-wing ideology.
  - lazyeye 1y ago
    There's a big overlap between Nazism and Zionism? It's really hard to keep up.
    - const_cast 1y ago
      Believe it or not, yes. It's specified above but yes, Adolf Hitler was a Zionist. The fallacy here is thinking Judaism and Zionism are related. They're not at all. I would wager most Jews worldwide are not Zionists. What Zionism is is the belief that Jews are entitled to a Jewish Ethnostate and they may create that state through violence and colonialism.
      - lazyeye 1y ago
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4
  - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
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    - const_cast 1y ago
      Feel free to look up the Haavara Agreement.
      - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
        Who said neo Nazis today are defined by an agreement from the 1930s? Hitler and Nazi Germany made many agreements. They also had one with Russia, and we all know how that went. So your info on neo nazis is way off.
        immibis 1y ago
        That's really interesting because when someone uses one definition of neonazi as anyone who supports the extermination of a race, as well as getting obsessed with transgenderism and so on, they get shouted down with "no, Nazis are members of Hitler's party" but now someone is defining them as members of Hitler's party and you're shouting them down by saying the modern definition is different.

FirmwareBurner 1y ago

>But it's pretty common for right-wingers, even neo-Nazis, to support Israel because of the argument "The Jews get to have a state to call their home, why not Whites?" It really isn't. Where did you get that information?

const_cast 1y ago
From right-wingers and neo-nazis. There's a big overlap between Zionism and right-wing ideology.
- lazyeye 1y ago
  There's a big overlap between Nazism and Zionism? It's really hard to keep up.
  - const_cast 1y ago
    Believe it or not, yes. It's specified above but yes, Adolf Hitler was a Zionist. The fallacy here is thinking Judaism and Zionism are related. They're not at all. I would wager most Jews worldwide are not Zionists. What Zionism is is the belief that Jews are entitled to a Jewish Ethnostate and they may create that state through violence and colonialism.
    - lazyeye 1y ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
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  - const_cast 1y ago
    Feel free to look up the Haavara Agreement.
    - FirmwareBurner 1y ago
      Who said neo Nazis today are defined by an agreement from the 1930s? Hitler and Nazi Germany made many agreements. They also had one with Russia, and we all know how that went. So your info on neo nazis is way off.
      - immibis 1y ago
        That's really interesting because when someone uses one definition of neonazi as anyone who supports the extermination of a race, as well as getting obsessed with transgenderism and so on, they get shouted down with "no, Nazis are members of Hitler's party" but now someone is defining them as members of Hitler's party and you're shouting them down by saying the modern definition is different.