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It's all so confusing. Defending Jewish people is very unexpected behaviour for someone, who we've been told for years now, is a nazi...
by lazyeye 1y ago
It's all so confusing. Defending Jewish people is very unexpected behaviour for someone, who we've been told for years now, is a nazi...
- CuriouslyC 1y ago[flagged]
- lazyeye 1y agoEither that or what you are saying is complete nonsense and is much more a rationalisation of your own beliefs than a reflection of anyone elses..
- sorcerer-mar 1y agoTrump likes Israel because the GOP likes Israel. The GOP likes Israel because they believe it's important to ushering in the endtimes. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZboeOkG9e0E https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZboeOkG9e0E
- lazyeye 1y agoMore nonsense.
- sorcerer-mar 1y agoVideo of a sitting US Senator, one of the most prominent leaders in the entire GOP, saying he supports Israel because his magical book tells him to. "more nonsense" Great rebuttal.
- shadowgovt 1y agoI wish it were. Some reading on the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_theology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_theology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate Worth noting: Senator Ted Cruz's father is a pastor and follows this ideology. There's a pretty good article on the topic: https://www.christiancentury.org/article/features/quiet-rise-christian-dominionism https://www.christiancentury.org/article/features/quiet-rise... And the Dominionists require Israel to be strong because Jews rebuilding the temple is part of their apocalyptic beliefs. https://sojo.net/articles/evangelical-support-israel-fueled-apocalyptic-hopes https://sojo.net/articles/evangelical-support-israel-fueled-...
- lazyeye 1y agoUgh...most of the Democrats are foot fetishists. I wish it were not true but here's proof:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_fetishism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_fetishism
- shadowgovt 1y agoI appreciate the definition page. Were there additional links you intended to provide indicating the relationship to Democrats? I did provide additional links indicating the relationship between the Republican party and Dominionism; do you have any questions on them I could address?
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- sorcerer-mar 1y agoI like that your comments and counterarguments are so asinine as to thoroughly discredit yourself and your worldview, but not so asinine as to hide the evidence by getting it flagged. It's a delicate balance and I'm glad you can strike it so consistently.
- lazyeye 1y agoWhoosh....straight over your head...
- sorcerer-mar 1y agoKeep it up!
- immibis 1y agoA common misconception. Hitler was a big supporter of creating Israel (which didn't exist at the time) too. Why? Because the point of Israel was to make the Jews go far away from Europe, where Hitler didn't want them to be.
- lazyeye 1y agoSo ummm..are you saying Trump is defending the Jewish state so that eventually all the Jewish people in the US can be moved there? Trying to understand your logic here...
- assbuttbuttass 1y agoI don't think Trump personally is anti-semetic. But it's pretty common for right-wingers, even neo-Nazis, to support Israel because of the argument "The Jews get to have a state to call their home, why not Whites?"
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago>But it's pretty common for right-wingers, even neo-Nazis, to support Israel because of the argument "The Jews get to have a state to call their home, why not Whites?" It really isn't. Where did you get that information?
- const_cast 1y agoFrom right-wingers and neo-nazis. There's a big overlap between Zionism and right-wing ideology.
- lazyeye 1y agoThere's a big overlap between Nazism and Zionism? It's really hard to keep up.
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- ItCouldBeWorse 1y ago[flagged]
- lazyeye 1y agoYes I think they like to camouflage a very basic, garden variety hatred behind a cloak of supposed "virtue" but really they are just haters, plain and simple. They accuse others of being nazis so that they themselves can be nazis. Some interesting maps thankyou.
- ItCouldBeWorse 1y agoI think its a real interesting challenge, from a hacker perspective. How do you bootstrap a culture, that spirals into this minima, to recover and redevelop a interest in science and cultural development, without external intervention or enforcement. You only have the Robinson Crusoe elements you start out with and the technology and external culture that is not actively rejected by maximum religious fervor. If all other parts of humanity got stuck in this mindset, how could a open culture redevelop from this? Its really tough, i bow my head to the Houdini who pulls it off. Like - can you school a child, without school, only on youtube videos - or with some teacher LLM, downloaded to an illegal phone, smuggled in and only capable to run during the day on some battered solar.
- throwaway290 1y agoPeople who think Israel is white probably never been there. Similar about apartheid, if you look at actual laws quoted as evidence of apartheid they don't come close to places like Saudi Arabia or Malaysia and honestly a bunch of other countries who have their own laws of return/restricted citizenship/political representation/cultural representation etc (even South Korea has it all) But obviously this is not an excuse for Israel government supporting religious orthodox extremists and their settlements and aggression against Muslims in the area near Jordan. If you just take the situation there then it is basically a war zone. If West Bank was considered part of Israel then I can see elements of apartheid but people who say it's apartheid also say West Bank is a separate country. You can't have apartheid in another country. Call it invasion/occupation or apartheid, but pick one? (Also yes this is whataboutism but what Russia is doing is orders of magnitude worse if invasions are considered.)
- viraptor 1y agoIt's just convenient right now, not a part of ideology of protecting minorities. Consider how this is effectively a type of targeted affirmative action just a short time after all dei was the devil and had to be erased. If Israel does something the gov doesn't support, I expect all of this to go away.
- lazyeye 1y agoNot sure how much value your "expectations" have but thanks for sharing...
- sofixa 1y agoThat's because people confuse generic fascism with nazism. A big part of the difference is the virulent antisemitism. Trump and his friends are fascists (corporatism, corruption, strongman rule, us vs them with human rights abuses vs the "them", etc).
- lazyeye 1y agoI dunno...the Dems campaign funds were 3 times the Republicans at the last election so the corporate donors were very much on their side. And the corruption within USAID was off the charts..billions of dollars shovelled out the door to Democrat friends. The bypassing of the first amendment by pressuring social media companies to self-censor. And the weaponisation of the legal system to take out a political opponent. I think your description far more accurately describes the Democrats than the Republicans.
- sofixa 1y ago> the Dems campaign funds were 3 times the Republicans at the last election so the corporate donors were very much on their side. I'm not going to fact check that because it's probably wrong, but regardless, it doesn't matter. Trump literally appointed a billionaire to be a minister of his, after said billionaire spent hundreds of millions on his campaign. Same billionaire also has government contracts, was in charge of "optimising" government spending. Oh and he runs a social media with blatant censorship. Trump had a coronation event where billionaires had to donate big sums of money to be able to attend. He launched shitcoins and collectibles and a fucking mobile phone. Nothing any recent politician in any western country has done comes even close to this level of brazen corruption. Hell, well known corrupt autocrats like Putin are more delicate in public about their corruption. > And the corruption within USAID was off the charts..billions of dollars shovelled out the door to Democrat friends Like preventing HIV from being transmitted to babies in Africa? Darn Democratic HIV infected babies!
- sorcerer-mar 1y ago> And the corruption within USAID was off the charts..billions of dollars shovelled out the door to Democrat friends. Please share evidence. Links to X of people simply stating the same thing does not count as evidence. > The bypassing of the first amendment by pressuring social media companies to self-censor. The platforms never claimed to be coerced, the platforms themselves said in court filings they were not coerced, SCOTUS determined they were not coerced. The actual way this played out was that random crybabies on the Internet were sad their posts were moderated, so they complained to the courts that the government pressured the platforms. The platforms responded "no, we did that because you broke our ToS." Here's Twitter's own lawyer in their legal filing on the matter: > Such requests to do more to stop the spread of false or misleading COVID-19 information, untethered to any specific threat or requirement to take any specific action against plaintiffs is permissible persuasion, and not state action... as [SCOTUS] previously held, government actors are free to urge private parties to take certain actions or criticize others without giving rise to state action. The evidence provided does not support a plausible inference of state action because they suggest neither the degree of deep public, private entwinement necessary for joint action, nor the kind of threatened sanction necessary for coercion. And here are Zuckerberg's own words: > Ultimately it was our decision whether or not to take content down and we own our decisions. Both platforms receive millions of government requests per year, the vast majority of which (from the US government) they are free to decline and frequently do decline. > And the weaponisation of the legal system to take out a political opponent. The entire purpose of a legal system is to "take out" criminals. Do you think running for office somehow gives someone criminal immunity? That has to be one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard in my life, and I've heard some astoundingly stupid ones!
- const_cast 1y agoWhen people say that Trump is a Nazi, they mean in the fascist "enemy from within" type of way. As in they're using Nazi as a drop-in for fascist because Nazi Germany was the most popular fascist nation that everyone knows. They probably shouldn't do that and should just say fascist.
- lazyeye 1y agoYes I guess nazis were the "most popular fascist nation". Interestingly there were alot of themes in nazi ideology that could almost be considered left-wing. They believed in the dignity of the German working class man for example and that the Jewish people represented big business and were a corruption on society etc.
- const_cast 1y agoOkay, whatever.
- lazyeye 1y agoYep exactly, whatever....
- shadowgovt 1y agoIndeed. Their socialist program was left-wing... But it was socialism only for the people they considered actually people. That'd be the key difference between Nazi beliefs and any modern democratic socialism.
- lazyeye 1y agoSo both different forms of socialism then....
- shadowgovt 1y agoIn the sense that salmon and rat poison are both different sources of vitamin D3, sure.
- _pigpen__ 1y agoIt's pretty simple, Trump hates Muslims more than he hates Jews ("Fine people on both sides", Kanye & Feuntes, cancelling funding for domestic anti-semitism programs...). This is the Muslim ban under a different guise.
- lazyeye 1y agoYes I guess it is pretty simple in your mind.