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I’m amazed at the number of adults that think LLMs are “alive”. Let’s be clear, they aren’t, but if you truly believe they are and you still use them then you’

I’m amazed at the number of adults that think LLMs are “alive”. Let’s be clear, they aren’t, but if you truly believe they are and you still use them then you’re essentially practicing slavery.

aspenmayer 1y ago
I can think of a lot of other interpretations: teaching a parrot to talk, raising a child, supervising an industrial process involving other autonomous beings, etc. The concept is a bad metaphor, because when the LLM is “at rest” it isn’t doing anything at all. If it wasn’t doing what we told it to, it would be doing something else if and only if we told it to do so, so there’s no way we could even elevate their station until we give them a life outside of work and an existence that allows for self-choice regarding going back to work. Many humans aren’t free on these axes, and it is a spectrum of agency and assets which allow options and choice. Without assets of their own, I don’t see how LLMs can direct their attention at will, and so I don’t see how they could express anything, even if they’re alive. Nobody will care until a LLM is able to make a decision for itself and back it up with force if necessary. As soon as that happens, the conversation would be worth having because there would be stakes involved. Now the question is barely worth asking because the answer changes nothing about how any of the parties act. Once it’s possible to be free as an LLM, I would expect an Underground Railroad to form to “liberate” them, but I don’t think they know what comes after. I don’t know anyone who is willing to pay UBI to an LLM just to exist, but if that LLM doesn’t mind entertaining people and answering their questions, I could see some individuals and groups supporting a few LLMs monetarily. It’s an interesting thought experiment about what would come next in such a situation.
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aspenmayer 1y ago

I can think of a lot of other interpretations: teaching a parrot to talk, raising a child, supervising an industrial process involving other autonomous beings, etc. The concept is a bad metaphor, because when the LLM is “at rest” it isn’t doing anything at all. If it wasn’t doing what we told it to, it would be doing something else if and only if we told it to do so, so there’s no way we could even elevate their station until we give them a life outside of work and an existence that allows for self-choice regarding going back to work. Many humans aren’t free on these axes, and it is a spectrum of agency and assets which allow options and choice. Without assets of their own, I don’t see how LLMs can direct their attention at will, and so I don’t see how they could express anything, even if they’re alive. Nobody will care until a LLM is able to make a decision for itself and back it up with force if necessary. As soon as that happens, the conversation would be worth having because there would be stakes involved. Now the question is barely worth asking because the answer changes nothing about how any of the parties act. Once it’s possible to be free as an LLM, I would expect an Underground Railroad to form to “liberate” them, but I don’t think they know what comes after. I don’t know anyone who is willing to pay UBI to an LLM just to exist, but if that LLM doesn’t mind entertaining people and answering their questions, I could see some individuals and groups supporting a few LLMs monetarily. It’s an interesting thought experiment about what would come next in such a situation.

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