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Would it be in line with those values for Apple to pay royalties to Google for "stealing" the omnibar in the new version of Safari? What about the numerous sim

Would it be in line with those values for Apple to pay royalties to Google for "stealing" the omnibar in the new version of Safari? What about the numerous similarities that Apple's new maps app will undoubtedly have to Google Maps? Or is it only important when other companies do it?

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taligent 14y ago
Well actually Google didn't invent the omnibar nor computer based mapping. Also there is a difference between copying a single feature like the omnibar and copying every single element of a product e.g. UI, hardware design, packaging, dock connector etc. Samsung was much more blatant about it. It's akin to the difference between stealing elements from a Louis Vuitton bag versus creating a complete knockoff. I don't think the concept is hard to understand. And clearly the jury gets it as well.
- haberman 14y ago
  Apple didn't actually invent touch-based smartphones. Google Maps was a huge leap over the competition of the time. I'm pretty sure it was the first to allow pan/zoom of the map by dragging, dynamically loading of tiles as needed with XMLHttpRequest. All websites up until then had pan/zoom buttons that would completely reload the website.
  - coecoventures 14y ago
    There was a financial relationship between Apple and Google for the use of Google maps. That shouldn't be forgotten.
jfb 14y ago
If Google had patented the omnibar, or something about Maps, then sure. Of course, Google didn't, or they'd be suing so fast your head would spin. Say what you will about the US patent system, it's the playing field we're on. I would be first to line up against the USPTO (and I'm named on several bullshit patents, some, yes, from my time at Apple), but until that day, we play by the rules or we pay out.
- haberman 14y ago
  I'm not commenting on the legal issue, I'm commenting on the memo that claims a moral, values-based argument for this legal action.
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entropy_ 14y ago
What about "stealing" the pull-down notifications in iOS 5? That's clearly taken from android.

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taligent 14y ago

Well actually Google didn't invent the omnibar nor computer based mapping. Also there is a difference between copying a single feature like the omnibar and copying every single element of a product e.g. UI, hardware design, packaging, dock connector etc. Samsung was much more blatant about it. It's akin to the difference between stealing elements from a Louis Vuitton bag versus creating a complete knockoff. I don't think the concept is hard to understand. And clearly the jury gets it as well.

haberman 14y ago
Apple didn't actually invent touch-based smartphones. Google Maps was a huge leap over the competition of the time. I'm pretty sure it was the first to allow pan/zoom of the map by dragging, dynamically loading of tiles as needed with XMLHttpRequest. All websites up until then had pan/zoom buttons that would completely reload the website.
- coecoventures 14y ago
  There was a financial relationship between Apple and Google for the use of Google maps. That shouldn't be forgotten.

jfb 14y ago

If Google had patented the omnibar, or something about Maps, then sure. Of course, Google didn't, or they'd be suing so fast your head would spin. Say what you will about the US patent system, it's the playing field we're on. I would be first to line up against the USPTO (and I'm named on several bullshit patents, some, yes, from my time at Apple), but until that day, we play by the rules or we pay out.

haberman 14y ago
I'm not commenting on the legal issue, I'm commenting on the memo that claims a moral, values-based argument for this legal action.
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entropy_ 14y ago

What about "stealing" the pull-down notifications in iOS 5? That's clearly taken from android.