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OT does anyone else find it off topic to see the word "grokking"? Does that mean understanding? Do we need a new word for this extremely basic concept?

throawayonthe 1y ago
the term is 60+ years old https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok
- jxjnskkzxxhx 1y ago
  What's your point? It's 60 years old therefore can't possibly be stupid? Or perhaps you have no point and are just nitpicking that I called it new? Compared to the word "to understand" it's new, it's pretty obvious that my use of the word new had a context attached.
  - wredcoll 1y ago
    You just asked us if we need new slang words. The answer is so self-evidently obviously yes that no one can actually understand why you bothered.
GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
"Grok (/ˈɡrɒk/) is a neologism coined by the American writer Robert A. Heinlein for his 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land. While the Oxford English Dictionary summarizes the meaning of grok as "to understand intuitively or by empathy, to establish rapport with" and "to empathize or communicate sympathetically (with); also, to experience enjoyment", Heinlein's concept is far more nuanced, with critic Istvan Csicsery-Ronay Jr. observing that "the book's major theme can be seen as an extended definition of the term." The concept of grok garnered significant critical scrutiny in the years after the book's initial publication. The term and aspects of the underlying concept have become part of communities such as computer science. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok
theideaofcoffee 1y ago
It's a pretty common, well-accepted use in the hacker lexicon. See esr's Jargon File [0] where, by some sources [1][2], it started being used in its capacity as meaning 'understanding' for forty-ish years now at this point. [0] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/grok.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/grok.html [1] https://books.google.com/books?id=uS4EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA32#v=onepage&q&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=uS4EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA32#v=one... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok#In_computer_programmer_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok#In_computer_programmer_cu...
- pak9rabid 1y ago
  Also, have we all forgotten about Groklaw already?
  - theideaofcoffee 1y ago
    RIP Groklaw
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throawayonthe 1y ago

the term is 60+ years old https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok

jxjnskkzxxhx 1y ago
What's your point? It's 60 years old therefore can't possibly be stupid? Or perhaps you have no point and are just nitpicking that I called it new? Compared to the word "to understand" it's new, it's pretty obvious that my use of the word new had a context attached.
- wredcoll 1y ago
  You just asked us if we need new slang words. The answer is so self-evidently obviously yes that no one can actually understand why you bothered.

GuinansEyebrows 1y ago

"Grok (/ˈɡrɒk/) is a neologism coined by the American writer Robert A. Heinlein for his 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land. While the Oxford English Dictionary summarizes the meaning of grok as "to understand intuitively or by empathy, to establish rapport with" and "to empathize or communicate sympathetically (with); also, to experience enjoyment", Heinlein's concept is far more nuanced, with critic Istvan Csicsery-Ronay Jr. observing that "the book's major theme can be seen as an extended definition of the term." The concept of grok garnered significant critical scrutiny in the years after the book's initial publication. The term and aspects of the underlying concept have become part of communities such as computer science. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok

theideaofcoffee 1y ago

It's a pretty common, well-accepted use in the hacker lexicon. See esr's Jargon File [0] where, by some sources [1][2], it started being used in its capacity as meaning 'understanding' for forty-ish years now at this point. [0] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/grok.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/grok.html [1] https://books.google.com/books?id=uS4EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA32#v=onepage&q&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=uS4EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA32#v=one... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok#In_computer_programmer_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok#In_computer_programmer_cu...

pak9rabid 1y ago
Also, have we all forgotten about Groklaw already?
- theideaofcoffee 1y ago
  RIP Groklaw

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