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> > "Here's a rich native toolkit so all the new software will look and work and theme consistently"-- a well-known and directly user-facing friction point, so
by bmacho 1y ago
> > "Here's a rich native toolkit so all the new software will look and work and theme consistently"-- a well-known and directly user-facing friction point, so how did they miss that?
> The problem is that application toolkits are a step above window managers and compositors. That's really an application developers choice, not a desktop's choice. Developers want to use Electron, and there's nothing we can do about that.
OTOH most toolkits are themeable on global and application level. It is certainly possible for a working group to provide consistent themes for applications. E.g. my favorite theme is Adwaita dark[0] from ~Ubuntu 14, and it is possible to tell gtk/qt/tk/fltk/.. to look like this on a global level, and if some applications look bad due to icons or something, then fix them. It's just nobody is doing that.
And I agree, I don't see how could've been this a killer application for Wayland, this should be accomplished with distributing config files, and not somewhere near the display protocol.
[0] : https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+adwaita+dark&udm=2 https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+adwaita+dark&udm=2
- const_cast 1y agoThe landscape was quite different in 2014. I know, I was there, and Linux desktops have been getting less themable since because application technologies are going off the rails. KDE today is still fairly themable if you stick to Qt apps and GTK 3 apps. But if you use a dozen frameworks then yeah, that's not themable anymore. Which really sucks but it is what it is. And, honestly, it's not that bad. It's much, much worse on some other platforms.