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Wasn’t HTMX just a meme? I can’t really tell if it’s serious because of Poe’s Law.

by deadbabe 1y ago

recursivedoubts 1y ago
htmx sucks: https://htmx.org/essays/htmx-sucks/ https://htmx.org/essays/htmx-sucks/
- someothherguyy 1y ago
  well, at least he is (you are?) consistent in this style of criticizing others' ideas with satirical sarcasm fueled prose focused on tearing down straw men.
  - recursivedoubts 1y ago
    exactly! get the mug! https://swag.htmx.org/products/htmx-sucks-mug https://swag.htmx.org/products/htmx-sucks-mug
    - deleted 1y ago
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- deadbabe 1y ago
  So it is bad?
  - recursivedoubts 1y ago
    Definitely for some stuff! https://htmx.org/essays/when-to-use-hypermedia/ https://htmx.org/essays/when-to-use-hypermedia/ https://htmx.org/essays/#on-the-other-hand https://htmx.org/essays/#on-the-other-hand
  - recursive 1y ago
    If you read this and concluded that it's bad, then you probably shouldn't use it.
brushfoot 1y ago
Solopreneur making use of it in my bootstrapped B2B SaaS business. Clients don't need or want anything flashy. There are islands of interactivity, and some HTMX sprinkled there has been a great fit.
- deadbabe 1y ago
  Wish I had your clients, instead of ones that say a page needs more “pizazz!”
  - aspenmayer 1y ago
    I’m getting zombo.com vibes from this client request.
    - foo42 1y ago
      you can do anything at Zombocom!
  - wvbdmp 1y ago
    The pizazz clients want sites for their customers, the no-frills clients want sites for them to use themselves.
- stevoski 1y ago
  Using HTMX in my B2B SaaS allowed me to enjoy coding for the web again. I had lost that joy somewhere along the way. And our customers seem very content with the way our product works. (For the record: yes, it’s a stable, profitable, long-established product.)
dgb23 1y ago
I started using htmx relatively early on, because its a more elegant version of what I've been doing anyways for a series of projects. It's very effective, simple and expressive to work this way, as long as you keep in mind that some client side rendering is fine. There are a few bits I don't like about it, like defaulting to swap innerHTML instead of outerHTML, not swapping HTML when the status code isn't 200-299 by default and it has some features that I avoid, like inline JSON on buttons instead of just using forms. Other than that, it's great. I can also recommend reading the book https://hypermedia.systems/ https://hypermedia.systems/.

Wasn’t HTMX just a meme? I can’t really tell if it’s serious because of Poe’s Law.

recursivedoubts 1y ago

htmx sucks: https://htmx.org/essays/htmx-sucks/ https://htmx.org/essays/htmx-sucks/

someothherguyy 1y ago
well, at least he is (you are?) consistent in this style of criticizing others' ideas with satirical sarcasm fueled prose focused on tearing down straw men.
- recursivedoubts 1y ago
  exactly! get the mug! https://swag.htmx.org/products/htmx-sucks-mug https://swag.htmx.org/products/htmx-sucks-mug
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
deadbabe 1y ago
So it is bad?
- recursivedoubts 1y ago
  Definitely for some stuff! https://htmx.org/essays/when-to-use-hypermedia/ https://htmx.org/essays/when-to-use-hypermedia/ https://htmx.org/essays/#on-the-other-hand https://htmx.org/essays/#on-the-other-hand
- recursive 1y ago
  If you read this and concluded that it's bad, then you probably shouldn't use it.

brushfoot 1y ago

Solopreneur making use of it in my bootstrapped B2B SaaS business. Clients don't need or want anything flashy. There are islands of interactivity, and some HTMX sprinkled there has been a great fit.

deadbabe 1y ago
Wish I had your clients, instead of ones that say a page needs more “pizazz!”
- aspenmayer 1y ago
  I’m getting zombo.com vibes from this client request.
  - foo42 1y ago
    you can do anything at Zombocom!
- wvbdmp 1y ago
  The pizazz clients want sites for their customers, the no-frills clients want sites for them to use themselves.
stevoski 1y ago
Using HTMX in my B2B SaaS allowed me to enjoy coding for the web again. I had lost that joy somewhere along the way. And our customers seem very content with the way our product works. (For the record: yes, it’s a stable, profitable, long-established product.)

dgb23 1y ago

I started using htmx relatively early on, because its a more elegant version of what I've been doing anyways for a series of projects. It's very effective, simple and expressive to work this way, as long as you keep in mind that some client side rendering is fine. There are a few bits I don't like about it, like defaulting to swap innerHTML instead of outerHTML, not swapping HTML when the status code isn't 200-299 by default and it has some features that I avoid, like inline JSON on buttons instead of just using forms. Other than that, it's great. I can also recommend reading the book https://hypermedia.systems/ https://hypermedia.systems/.