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Sorta similar with a lot of plants I imagine, we planted a Madrone tree and it's very tempting to want to water a small & new tree but they can also get root is

Sorta similar with a lot of plants I imagine, we planted a Madrone tree and it's very tempting to want to water a small & new tree but they can also get root issues if the ground is too wet or doesn't drain well enough. They're highly adapted to living on the sides of cliffs.

ge96 1y ago
I've been trying to grow a mango from a seed for so long. The roots always get hit by black fungus and it dies off. Tallest I got one to grow was about 10"
- pantalaimon 1y ago
  Same with Lychee, after a bit the leaves all start getting brown from the tip and die off. Avocado on the other hand grows like a charm.
- thatcat 1y ago
  Try adding some natto innoculant to the seed
  - tmoertel 1y ago
    For the Bacillus subtilis?
    - thatcat 1y ago
      yes, b. subtilis produces exogenous anti-fungal peptides and VOCs. Additionally, sterilizing the seed before inoculation using sodium hypochlorite or h2o2 would help.
kakapo5672 1y ago
Weird. We just planted a madrone too. Labor of love (beautiful trees), but they are very iffy trees to get going. I did attempt to help things along by putting lots of madrone duff with it, so as to try to get the right biota.
tetha 1y ago
We recently had this discussion about house plants as well. The unexpected part is: Too much watering hurts more than too little watering. Especially with bad drainage. If the watering is on the too-little side for the evaporation and plant size going on, well, the plant will look a little sad for a bit. Then you water it, and it goes back up and looks happy again. This is a situation plants regularly deal with in the wild - drought - and they have adapted to it. If you water too much, especially with bad drainage, there will be stagnant water in the pot, roots rot and the plant dies with little recourse. So now I make sure my pots can drain, take my plants outside once or twice a week, absolutely drown their soil and let that drain for an hour or two. This way, the soil becomes saturated without stagnant water and... some of these plants are reproducing and growing at unreasonable rates for the amount of effort placed into them.

ge96 1y ago

I've been trying to grow a mango from a seed for so long. The roots always get hit by black fungus and it dies off. Tallest I got one to grow was about 10"

pantalaimon 1y ago
Same with Lychee, after a bit the leaves all start getting brown from the tip and die off. Avocado on the other hand grows like a charm.
thatcat 1y ago
Try adding some natto innoculant to the seed
- tmoertel 1y ago
  For the Bacillus subtilis?
  - thatcat 1y ago
    yes, b. subtilis produces exogenous anti-fungal peptides and VOCs. Additionally, sterilizing the seed before inoculation using sodium hypochlorite or h2o2 would help.

kakapo5672 1y ago

Weird. We just planted a madrone too. Labor of love (beautiful trees), but they are very iffy trees to get going. I did attempt to help things along by putting lots of madrone duff with it, so as to try to get the right biota.

tetha 1y ago

We recently had this discussion about house plants as well. The unexpected part is: Too much watering hurts more than too little watering. Especially with bad drainage. If the watering is on the too-little side for the evaporation and plant size going on, well, the plant will look a little sad for a bit. Then you water it, and it goes back up and looks happy again. This is a situation plants regularly deal with in the wild - drought - and they have adapted to it. If you water too much, especially with bad drainage, there will be stagnant water in the pot, roots rot and the plant dies with little recourse. So now I make sure my pots can drain, take my plants outside once or twice a week, absolutely drown their soil and let that drain for an hour or two. This way, the soil becomes saturated without stagnant water and... some of these plants are reproducing and growing at unreasonable rates for the amount of effort placed into them.