Yup. And a big part of it that a lot of HNers don't seem to want to hear is that to get rich people to want to take mass transit, you need to strictly enforce a

Yup. And a big part of it that a lot of HNers don't seem to want to hear is that to get rich people to want to take mass transit, you need to strictly enforce against anti-social behavior. Treating the subway as a shelter or being menacing or foul-smelling should get you swiftly ejected.