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This is a fundamental part of the fediverse, or at least mastodon, right? There can't be an federation without doing exactly this between mastodon instances.

johnklos 1y ago
I, and I'm sure others, are suspicious that F**book will train AI on it, will keep copies and apply their own licenses, et cetera, until someone calls them out on it (ie, sues them).
- emaro 1y ago
  Me too. However you're free to join or move to an instance that doesn't federate with Threads.
- tuckerman 1y ago
  That's fair but the comment I'm responding to seems to take offense at just storing and distributing it on threads, which is exactly what every single fediverse instance has to do. There are also tools for dealing with this, namely you can configure a mastodon instance to not federate with a server. If someone is more concerned about training models on the data and whether that is legal or not, I assume Meta could easily be doing that already if they wanted to via scraping.
  - sneak 1y ago
    Not offense, just pointing it out. My own Mastodon instance is down at the moment; I need to fix it. Posting on a server that federates doesn’t grant anyone a copyright license to the content you post, regardless of the fact that you can choose a server that doesn’t federate.
- rustc 1y ago
  All AI companies are already training on any data they can get (by scraping or torrenting). At this point I don't think anyone will be stopping them, see [1] for the latest UK update. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/jun/06/uk-government-signals-it-will-not-force-tech-firms-to-disclose-how-they-train-ai https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/jun/06/uk-government-si...
- qualeed 1y ago
  >F**book Out of curiosity, why did you self-censor facebook? Does it keep the AI away, or something?
  - SiempreViernes 1y ago
    presumably they self-censored some derogatory alternative spelling, perhaps fuckbook?
sneak 1y ago
Correct. That said, simply running an ActivityPub server does not grant you a copyright license to the content that is federated to you. Also, most people don’t make money by running an instance of Mastodon. Meta is absolutely using the UGC displayed on their platform to make money.

johnklos 1y ago

I, and I'm sure others, are suspicious that F**book will train AI on it, will keep copies and apply their own licenses, et cetera, until someone calls them out on it (ie, sues them).

emaro 1y ago
Me too. However you're free to join or move to an instance that doesn't federate with Threads.
tuckerman 1y ago
That's fair but the comment I'm responding to seems to take offense at just storing and distributing it on threads, which is exactly what every single fediverse instance has to do. There are also tools for dealing with this, namely you can configure a mastodon instance to not federate with a server. If someone is more concerned about training models on the data and whether that is legal or not, I assume Meta could easily be doing that already if they wanted to via scraping.
- sneak 1y ago
  Not offense, just pointing it out. My own Mastodon instance is down at the moment; I need to fix it. Posting on a server that federates doesn’t grant anyone a copyright license to the content you post, regardless of the fact that you can choose a server that doesn’t federate.
rustc 1y ago
All AI companies are already training on any data they can get (by scraping or torrenting). At this point I don't think anyone will be stopping them, see [1] for the latest UK update. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/jun/06/uk-government-signals-it-will-not-force-tech-firms-to-disclose-how-they-train-ai https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/jun/06/uk-government-si...
qualeed 1y ago
>F**book Out of curiosity, why did you self-censor facebook? Does it keep the AI away, or something?
- SiempreViernes 1y ago
  presumably they self-censored some derogatory alternative spelling, perhaps fuckbook?

sneak 1y ago

Correct. That said, simply running an ActivityPub server does not grant you a copyright license to the content that is federated to you. Also, most people don’t make money by running an instance of Mastodon. Meta is absolutely using the UGC displayed on their platform to make money.